White supremacist group marches through Philadelphia before Fourth of July celebrations

[Fancypants]

This is more whataboutism.

By and large, I don't think Antifa and BLM riots were insurrections .... I'm not sure if Dunkin Donuts, Best Buy, 7Eleven, etc. has any authority. I think one could argue the protests around Portland's courthouse as well as Seattle's Capitol Hill protest camp may qualify.

Then again I don't know your point? Violence of any kind should have consequences. Participants of January 6th, Seattle, Portland, etc. are learning of this fact. If your point is that somehow what happened in Portland and Seattle is somehow the same as January 6th, I'd say its false equivalence.

More like pointing out hypocrisy. Antifa and BLM setting fire to police precincts and throwing Molotov cocktails into police cars would definitely qualify a insurrections.

What's the hypocrisy?

Fire to the police precinct occurred in Seattle, didn't it, which I mentioned above.

As for the Molotov cocktails, I'm not aware of any Antifa or BLM doing this. If they had I don't think it would qualify as an insurrection.

The Molotov cocktail throwing by blm happened multiple times in NYC last year.

Are you referring to the two lawyers torching an empty NYPD van? Were they BLM? It's not clear from what I googled.

Could have been Antifa or just some good ole' card carrying progressive socialist democrats? What kind of people would commit such a heinous act of intentional violence against those providing public service at direction of their Government. Insurgents?

[XtremeJibber2001]

More like pointing out hypocrisy. Antifa and BLM setting fire to police precincts and throwing Molotov cocktails into police cars would definitely qualify a insurrections.

What's the hypocrisy?

Fire to the police precinct occurred in Seattle, didn't it, which I mentioned above.

As for the Molotov cocktails, I'm not aware of any Antifa or BLM doing this. If they had I don't think it would qualify as an insurrection.

The Molotov cocktail throwing by blm happened multiple times in NYC last year.

Are you referring to the two lawyers torching an empty NYPD van? Were they BLM? It's not clear from what I googled.

Could have been Antifa or just some good ole' card carrying progressive socialist democrats? What kind of people would commit such a heinous act of intentional violence against those providing public service at direction of their Government. Insurgents?

Is this hyperbole?

I have no clue who these two are but labeling them as progressive seems fair. They were both prosecuted to my knowledge, as they should. I don’t think this proves only progressives commit heinous acts as you seem to allude.

[easyrider16]

Your doing exactly what you accuse Throbster of doing, isn't that whataboutism? No matter how many times you type the word insurrection, Jan 6th was not an insurrection. Do you really believe that the ass clowns in the capital building were going to overthrow the US Government????

How so? I acknowledge that Jan 6 was an attempted insurrection with zero chance of success. That's still an insurrection, just one committed by dumb people. People who believe the very obvious lie of election fraud tend not to be the brightest among us.

I keep hearing from Trump supporters that the election was illegal. If that's so, why did all those court cases get tossed out? There's a process to dispute election results if a candidate thinks they are fraudulent. Trump tried that process and lost. Jan 6 was about circumventing the legal process to keep Trump in power. That's textbook insurrection. Another word for it is coup attempt.

[throbster]

The real coup was carried out by the intelligence agencies and the Dem party against Trump. The pulled out all the stops to resist and their treasonous acts have gone unpunished (so far).

The insurrection narrative had been a joke and everyone knows it.
https://babylonbee.com/news/aoc-added-t ... pitol-riot

[daytripper]

The real coup was carried out by the intelligence agencies and the Dem party against Trump. The pulled out all the stops to resist and their treasonous acts have gone unpunished (so far).

The insurrection narrative had been a joke and everyone knows it.
https://babylonbee.com/news/aoc-added-t ... pitol-riot

What was the point of that link?

[easyrider16]

Trolling.

[throbster]

It's making fun of AOC's theatrics

Duh

[daytripper]

It's making fun of AOC's theatrics

Duh

She does that pretty good by herself, just wasn't sure how she got into the conversation.

[FingerPicker]

More Whataboutism.

BUT

The act of revolting violently against civil/political authority or against an established government is literally the definition of insurrection.

So all of the antifa and BLM riots were insurrections. Thanks for clarifying.

This is more whataboutism.

By and large, I don't think Antifa and BLM riots were insurrections .... I'm not sure if Dunkin Donuts, Best Buy, 7Eleven, etc. has any authority. I think one could argue the protests around Portland's courthouse as well as Seattle's Capitol Hill protest camp may qualify.

Then again I don't know your point? Violence of any kind should have consequences. Participants of January 6th, Seattle, Portland, etc. are learning of this fact. If your point is that somehow what happened in Portland and Seattle is somehow the same as January 6th, I'd say its false equivalence.

More like pointing out hypocrisy. Antifa and BLM setting fire to police precincts and throwing Molotov cocktails into police cars would definitely qualify a insurrections.

What's the hypocrisy?

Fire to the police precinct occurred in Seattle, didn't it, which I mentioned above.

As for the Molotov cocktails, I'm not aware of any Antifa or BLM doing this. If they had I don't think it would qualify as an insurrection.

The hypocrisy is how the left downplayed the riots, but are comparing Jan 6th to Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Leftist politicians and media downplayed and in some cases explicitly encouraged the riots, like Ayanna Presley. Cuomo even said that not all protests have to peaceful. Kamala promoted a bail fund for the MN riots. So on one hand you have the riots that resulted in some deaths, ruined the lives and business of many people, caused over a billion dollars in damage, burning of police precincts (one case where people were still inside), & paved the way for how people openly disrespect the police today. On the other hand you had some morons storm the Capitol with no guns, and congress went back to work later that night followed by National Guard protection. Kind of hard to overthrow the Govt with no guns. Just ask Joe. He'll tell you you can't overthrow the govt because they've got nukes. When Trump suggested using the guard for riots, the left went bezerk. How dare he! So for politicians in D.C. it's protection for me, but not for thee. Kind of like the various city council members across the country that voted to defund police, but then hired their own security, probably funded by the taxpayers. The left continues to harp on Jan 6 because they think the can use it to paint all Republicans as insurrectionists. If they're going to investigate Jan 6, why won't they investigate the riots? Pallets of bricks being dropped off, Uhaul trucks dropping off riot supplies. Clearly somebody was behind organizing and funding the riots.

[FingerPicker]

This is more whataboutism.

By and large, I don't think Antifa and BLM riots were insurrections .... I'm not sure if Dunkin Donuts, Best Buy, 7Eleven, etc. has any authority. I think one could argue the protests around Portland's courthouse as well as Seattle's Capitol Hill protest camp may qualify.

Then again I don't know your point? Violence of any kind should have consequences. Participants of January 6th, Seattle, Portland, etc. are learning of this fact. If your point is that somehow what happened in Portland and Seattle is somehow the same as January 6th, I'd say its false equivalence.

More like pointing out hypocrisy. Antifa and BLM setting fire to police precincts and throwing Molotov cocktails into police cars would definitely qualify a insurrections.

What's the hypocrisy?

Fire to the police precinct occurred in Seattle, didn't it, which I mentioned above.

As for the Molotov cocktails, I'm not aware of any Antifa or BLM doing this. If they had I don't think it would qualify as an insurrection.

The Molotov cocktail throwing by blm happened multiple times in NYC last year.

Are you referring to the two lawyers torching an empty NYPD van? Were they BLM? It's not clear from what I googled.

Do they have to carry a BLM membership card? It's so obvious this was part of the BLM riots.

[throbster]

More like pointing out hypocrisy. Antifa and BLM setting fire to police precincts and throwing Molotov cocktails into police cars would definitely qualify a insurrections.

What's the hypocrisy?

Fire to the police precinct occurred in Seattle, didn't it, which I mentioned above.

As for the Molotov cocktails, I'm not aware of any Antifa or BLM doing this. If they had I don't think it would qualify as an insurrection.

The Molotov cocktail throwing by blm happened multiple times in NYC last year.

Are you referring to the two lawyers torching an empty NYPD van? Were they BLM? It's not clear from what I googled.

Do they have to carry a BLM membership card? It's so obvious this was part of the BLM riots.

[XtremeJibber2001]

So all of the antifa and BLM riots were insurrections. Thanks for clarifying.

This is more whataboutism.

By and large, I don't think Antifa and BLM riots were insurrections .... I'm not sure if Dunkin Donuts, Best Buy, 7Eleven, etc. has any authority. I think one could argue the protests around Portland's courthouse as well as Seattle's Capitol Hill protest camp may qualify.

Then again I don't know your point? Violence of any kind should have consequences. Participants of January 6th, Seattle, Portland, etc. are learning of this fact. If your point is that somehow what happened in Portland and Seattle is somehow the same as January 6th, I'd say its false equivalence.

More like pointing out hypocrisy. Antifa and BLM setting fire to police precincts and throwing Molotov cocktails into police cars would definitely qualify a insurrections.

What's the hypocrisy?

Fire to the police precinct occurred in Seattle, didn't it, which I mentioned above.

As for the Molotov cocktails, I'm not aware of any Antifa or BLM doing this. If they had I don't think it would qualify as an insurrection.

The hypocrisy is how the left downplayed the riots, but are comparing Jan 6th to Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Leftist politicians and media downplayed and in some cases explicitly encouraged the riots, like Ayanna Presley. Cuomo even said that not all protests have to peaceful. Kamala promoted a bail fund for the MN riots. So on one hand you have the riots that resulted in some deaths, ruined the lives and business of many people, caused over a billion dollars in damage, burning of police precincts (one case where people were still inside), & paved the way for how people openly disrespect the police today. On the other hand you had some morons storm the Capitol with no guns, and congress went back to work later that night followed by National Guard protection. Kind of hard to overthrow the Govt with no guns. Just ask Joe. He'll tell you you can't overthrow the govt because they've got nukes. When Trump suggested using the guard for riots, the left went bezerk. How dare he! So for politicians in D.C. it's protection for me, but not for thee. Kind of like the various city council members across the country that voted to defund police, but then hired their own security, probably funded by the taxpayers. The left continues to harp on Jan 6 because they think the can use it to paint all Republicans as insurrectionists. If they're going to investigate Jan 6, why won't they investigate the riots? Pallets of bricks being dropped off, Uhaul trucks dropping off riot supplies. Clearly somebody was behind organizing and funding the riots.

Why didn't Trump's DOJ and AG investigate the riots? They happened for years before January 6 2021, nearly his entire term! I'm going to guess it's the same reason his DOJ/AG didn't pursue Hillary Clinton.

There's almost no similarity between the riots and January 6th. None. The GOP is digging their hole deeper instead of acknowledging how messed up it was ... it's not going over well among the moderates in the GOP nor independents, which they lost in 2020 and they'll need to gain back for 2024.

Like or not, most understand why Americans would be upset watching videos of Police Officers violating another American's humanity. I am one of those people. I don't agree with the violence and the looting, but I can at least understand their anger.

Most don't understand why Americans would storm their own Capitol to kill their fellow countrymen/women and hang America's Vice President.
Even my most ardent Republican friends think January 6th was an embarrassment. I lost count how many Trump flags came down off buildings around where I live after that day. By all means keep screaming from the mountaintops that it was just a tourist visit and nothing happened. Pride goeth before destruction.

[Bubba]

So all of the antifa and BLM riots were insurrections. Thanks for clarifying.

This is more whataboutism.

By and large, I don't think Antifa and BLM riots were insurrections .... I'm not sure if Dunkin Donuts, Best Buy, 7Eleven, etc. has any authority. I think one could argue the protests around Portland's courthouse as well as Seattle's Capitol Hill protest camp may qualify.

Then again I don't know your point? Violence of any kind should have consequences. Participants of January 6th, Seattle, Portland, etc. are learning of this fact. If your point is that somehow what happened in Portland and Seattle is somehow the same as January 6th, I'd say its false equivalence.

More like pointing out hypocrisy. Antifa and BLM setting fire to police precincts and throwing Molotov cocktails into police cars would definitely qualify a insurrections.

What's the hypocrisy?

Fire to the police precinct occurred in Seattle, didn't it, which I mentioned above.

As for the Molotov cocktails, I'm not aware of any Antifa or BLM doing this. If they had I don't think it would qualify as an insurrection.

The hypocrisy is how the left downplayed the riots, but are comparing Jan 6th to Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Leftist politicians and media downplayed and in some cases explicitly encouraged the riots, like Ayanna Presley. Cuomo even said that not all protests have to peaceful. Kamala promoted a bail fund for the MN riots. So on one hand you have the riots that resulted in some deaths, ruined the lives and business of many people, caused over a billion dollars in damage, burning of police precincts (one case where people were still inside), & paved the way for how people openly disrespect the police today. On the other hand you had some morons storm the Capitol with no guns, and congress went back to work later that night followed by National Guard protection. Kind of hard to overthrow the Govt with no guns. Just ask Joe. He'll tell you you can't overthrow the govt because they've got nukes. When Trump suggested using the guard for riots, the left went bezerk. How dare he! So for politicians in D.C. it's protection for me, but not for thee. Kind of like the various city council members across the country that voted to defund police, but then hired their own security, probably funded by the taxpayers. The left continues to harp on Jan 6 because they think the can use it to paint all Republicans as insurrectionists. If they're going to investigate Jan 6, why won't they investigate the riots? Pallets of bricks being dropped off, Uhaul trucks dropping off riot supplies. Clearly somebody was behind organizing and funding the riots.

No guns? Better check again.

[deadheadskier]

Concrete proof pallets of bricks and uHuals dropping off riot supplies?

Bigger than the 1/6 event is the damn President and his personal advisors were responsible for it happening. And the damn President continues to push the stolen election conspiracy to sow doubt in the Democratic process. That is on the first page of the Fascist handbook. This country and the world would be better off if Trump dropped dead vs continuing his BS.

[easyrider16]

The hypocrisy is how the left downplayed the riots, but are comparing Jan 6th to Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Leftist politicians and media downplayed and in some cases explicitly encouraged the riots, like Ayanna Presley.

I'll agree that comparing Jan 6 to Pearl Harbor or 9/11 is way over the top. Leftist media certainly did downplay the post-BLM-protest riots, and some nuts encouraged them. That's not great. But right-wing media exaggerated in the opposite direction, making them out to be wild riots everywhere when in most cases BLM protests were overwhelmingly peaceful. And Trump pretty much incited the Capitol Hill riot, so there is that.

But there's really no comparing the Capitol Hill riot to BLM protests. In no case did any BLM protest or post-protest riot attempt to take over any federal building or disrupt an ongoing election or the business of Congress. That's a big difference that you just can't seem to accept.