Ukraine / Russia

[throbster]

That throbster, she sure does get agitated about people's preferred pronouns.

[Coydog]

Actually: It's Ma'am.

But then, its is a possessive pronoun thing, so I understand your confusion.

[asher2789]

Another Russian oil executive dies by suicide, this time falling from a hospital window. Are windows in Russia simply unsafe?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ch ... 022-09-01/

defenestration is my favorite word that i learned of in 2022.

[throbster]

As the Biden administration marches us toward nuclear armageddon, we should heed Elon's advice:

[XtremeJibber2001]

As the Biden administration marches us toward nuclear armageddon, we should heed Elon's advice:

If you replaced Ukraine with USA and Crimea with the Northeastern USA, would you take the deal?

[throbster]

As the Biden administration marches us toward nuclear armageddon, we should heed Elon's advice:

If you replaced Ukraine with USA and Crimea with the Northeastern USA, would you take the deal?

My limited understanding is that most of the population of Crimea is loyal to Russia.

[XtremeJibber2001]

As the Biden administration marches us toward nuclear armageddon, we should heed Elon's advice:

If you replaced Ukraine with USA and Crimea with the Northeastern USA, would you take the deal?

My limited understanding is that most of the population of Crimea is loyal to Russia.

So that's a yes?

[Dickc]

As the Biden administration marches us toward nuclear armageddon, we should heed Elon's advice:

If you replaced Ukraine with USA and Crimea with the Northeastern USA, would you take the deal?

My limited understanding is that most of the population of Crimea is loyal to Russia.

Ukraine has been back and forth as Russian/non-Russian for a few hundred years. It was independent prior to Stalin taking it over (he wanted the wheat). Stalin's take over saw tens of thousands of Russians forcibly moved to the Ukraine, and many Ukrainians starved or worse. It was UGLY. After 1990, Ukraine again became independent, but still had many of Russian ethnic heritage there. Hence the current problem. Many of those ethnic Russians live in the areas that Putin is trying to annex, but also, many ethnic Ukrainians live there too. Russia has used the Crimea as a navy base for decades, so a bunch of navy dependents live in the surrounding Crimean areas. Russia wants to keep the navy base. If it loses that, it loses a port with access to the Mediterranean. Russia has no other port to the Med.

[throbster]

As the Biden administration marches us toward nuclear armageddon, we should heed Elon's advice:

If you replaced Ukraine with USA and Crimea with the Northeastern USA, would you take the deal?

My limited understanding is that most of the population of Crimea is loyal to Russia.

So that's a yes?

Your comparison is ridiculous so why would I answer it?

[XtremeJibber2001]

As the Biden administration marches us toward nuclear armageddon, we should heed Elon's advice:

If you replaced Ukraine with USA and Crimea with the Northeastern USA, would you take the deal?

My limited understanding is that most of the population of Crimea is loyal to Russia.

So that's a yes?

Your comparison is ridiculous so why would I answer it?

Since some of the northeast was loyal to Britain at the time of the Revolutionary War, you would have been in favor of surrendering parts of the northeast to Britain?

[throbster]

If you replaced Ukraine with USA and Crimea with the Northeastern USA, would you take the deal?

My limited understanding is that most of the population of Crimea is loyal to Russia.

So that's a yes?

Your comparison is ridiculous so why would I answer it?

Since some of the northeast was loyal to Britain at the time of the Revolutionary War, you would have been in favor of surrendering parts of the northeast to Britain?

Still a ridiculous comparison

[Bubba]

Crimea is a separate case but still illegally annexed by Russia in 2014(?). The rest of Ukraine is Ukraine, regardless of whether ethnic Russians live there. Saying otherwise is equivalent to Hitler's annexation of Austria in 1938.

[Dickc]

Crimea is a separate case but still illegally annexed by Russia in 2014(?). The rest of Ukraine is Ukraine, regardless of whether ethnic Russians live there. Saying otherwise is equivalent to Hitler's annexation of Austria in 1938.

I was just trying to give background and not justify any one of thing about it as Throbster seemed to not know much about Ukraine's history.

I DO agree with your statement, by the way. I am hoping if Putin tries to launch a nuke, his military takes good care of him, if you know what I mean.

[Dickc]

Putin deposed, Russia broken up, and NATO in a face-off with China: As Ukraine sees a path toward victory and a desperate Vladimir hits the panic button, expert argues THIS is how the war could end

See article

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... en-up.html

[throbster]

Let's pray Putin is deposed.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-n ... bor-report