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Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 4th, '22, 17:10
by asher2789
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cant wait for all the fundraising emails regarding abortion, meanwhile the american empire's military industrial complex marches on :roll:

we cant have universal healthcare, we cant have student loan cancellation, we cant have anything socially good for the working class because its too expensive. but the defense contractors? lets just keep spending billions to blow people up halfway across the world! theres endless money for that!

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 4th, '22, 17:50
by Heywood jablowmee
light dawns on Marblehead

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 4th, '22, 19:11
by throbster
Biden see it as politically expedient AND he gets to spend money with reckless abandon. Win, win.

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 4th, '22, 21:21
by asher2789
throbster wrote: May 4th, '22, 19:11 Biden see it as politically expedient AND he gets to spend money with reckless abandon. Win, win.
all sides fellate the military industrial complex. when one forever war ends, another must begin. team red, team blue, same owner.

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 6th, '22, 09:46
by XtremeJibber2001
Forgiving student loans might be the stupidest democrat idea ever. Hopefully it goes nowhere.

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 6th, '22, 10:44
by daytripper
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: May 6th, '22, 09:46 Forgiving student loans might be the stupidest democrat idea ever. Hopefully it goes nowhere.
Why is that? It totally teaches kids the value of a dollar! It's not like today's younger generation feels entitled or anything.

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 6th, '22, 11:59
by Dickc
We have people who never finished college stuck with student loans with a high school education. Some by their own choice, some by life happens circumstances like having to take care of younger siblings as their parents died type of life happens. BLANKET forgiveness is just plain wrong. Case by case forgiveness, I.e. Targeted forgiveness makes more sense. Did your loans go to a scam college? Did your loans go to a degree that you were told had a poor employment future? The first example should be forgiven, the second example should NOT. Yes, it means more bureaucracy (yuck), but its got to be looked at on a case by case basis.

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 6th, '22, 13:26
by easyrider16
I agree, Dickc. Some forgiveness in certain circumstances makes sense - for example there's already a loan forgiveness program for people who work in public interest areas as those areas tend to pay less than private sector jobs. But from a strictly economic perspective, the more money we throw at kids via Stafford loans, loan forgiveness, etc., the more it contributes to inflated tuition prices. The cost of college right now is completely outrageous, and has been increasing at far beyond inflation. I think at least part of the reason for that is government subsidies and loans that allow kids to pay these outrageous prices.

But on the other hand, I think we should make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy. Banks should have to take a good hard look at students before they hand them hundreds of thousands of dollars to obtain a basket weaving degree. Some kids need to be told no when they're seeking funds for something they can likely never pay back. Banks and colleges are profiting as if this were a business, and they, not just the kids, should be held accountable.

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 6th, '22, 19:36
by Dickc
As to college costs, my degree from Merrimack in No Andover, Mass cost about $2,100 a semester over 4 years for a total of close to $17,000 for 4 years (Graduated in 1984). ONE semester for my son at Northeastern ten years ago was $18,000, or more than my whole 4 years. Between him and my two daughters educations (Endicott College for both), I spent MEGABUCKS paying for it all. None of them has a cent of college debt. Son has a really good job paying more money than I ever made (he's a mechanical engineer). Daughters have either a business degree, or an accounting degree and both make good living wages. All three are homeowners too. The rise in college costs is CRIMINAL.

Edit to add most of my college costs were paid by GTE Sylvania through their tuition reimbursement program too. Very few corporations now have those programs

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 7th, '22, 08:20
by Mister Moose
So government should loan money for unquestioned college pursuit at over priced colleges, and then when we have too many graduates inadequately prepared for the workforce openings, we should spend more money and forgive the debt.

Maybe we should fix the problem that caused the poor judgement onerous debt before we consider lowering said debt.

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 7th, '22, 17:06
by Pedro
And you are kind of a moron now for not taking out a student loan, even if you don't need it. The government will pick up the tab.

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 17th, '22, 10:47
by throbster
Does everything Democrats do turn to sh*t? It sure seems that way.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/black- ... ther-child

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 17th, '22, 12:19
by XtremeJibber2001
throbster wrote: May 17th, '22, 10:47 Does everything Democrats do turn to sh*t? It sure seems that way.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/black- ... ther-child
I may have missed it, but there doesn't appear to be any active / former elected officials mentioned in the article.

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 17th, '22, 13:28
by throbster
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: May 17th, '22, 12:19
throbster wrote: May 17th, '22, 10:47 Does everything Democrats do turn to sh*t? It sure seems that way.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/black- ... ther-child
I may have missed it, but there doesn't appear to be any active / former elected officials mentioned in the article.
Everyone of you wokesters probably supported BLM in one way or another. Including democrat mayors painting Black Lives Matter on their city streets. Grifters grifting.

Re: Stupid Things Democrats Did Today

Posted: May 17th, '22, 13:39
by XtremeJibber2001
throbster wrote: May 17th, '22, 13:28
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: May 17th, '22, 12:19
throbster wrote: May 17th, '22, 10:47 Does everything Democrats do turn to sh*t? It sure seems that way.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/black- ... ther-child
I may have missed it, but there doesn't appear to be any active / former elected officials mentioned in the article.
Everyone of you wokesters probably supported BLM in one way or another. Including democrat mayors painting Black Lives Matter on their city streets. Grifters grifting.
So you agree, there's no active / former elected officials in the article.