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easyrider16 wrote: Mar 14th, '22, 10:03 Since when do far-right wingers care about poor people? I thought those people were supposed to lift themselves up by their own bootstraps. If they can't afford the price of gas, maybe they should get better jobs, isn't that supposed to be the line?
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I didn't say Republicans. I said far-right wingers. Those are not the same thing. Read better, please.
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G-smashed wrote: Mar 12th, '22, 16:42 You are not poor if you're a regular at K and you certainly have no class. Back on topic gas prices may be stabilizing here in north NJ. I actually saw one station come down a couple of cents in the last day. I guess I can afford the extra $50 to come up there for the demolition party next week.
employees at k make around $15 an hour and are regulars at k. everybody that works for a living is working class, even the "rich" doctors and lawyers. if not working will eventually lead to being homeless, youre working class. if you can skate by on your investments and you consider "work" to be maintaining the airbnb and checking the stock market, youre part of the ownership class. you take rents for a living.

a 365 pass is ~$100 a month, which is mostly affordable even for those that are working class. if youre not spending that $ on netflix, hulu, hbomax, spotify, and other entertainment options (or worse, cable) you can spend the same amount on a pass. when you factor in that most americans live on debt and have negative net worths things start to make a lot more sense...
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easyrider16 wrote: Mar 14th, '22, 10:14 I didn't say Republicans. I said far-right wingers. Those are not the same thing. Read better, please.
unfortunately the far right has all but captured the republican party. theres a few exceptions, but even the exceptions tolerate the far right if it gets them ahead.
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Oil loses nearly a quarter of its value since March 6.
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asher2789 wrote: Mar 14th, '22, 11:09when you factor in that most americans ... have negative net worths
Link to evidence please?
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Bubba wrote: Mar 14th, '22, 15:55
asher2789 wrote: Mar 14th, '22, 11:09when you factor in that most americans ... have negative net worths
Link to evidence please?
Looks like it’s closer to 15% of American households.

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Bubba wrote: Mar 14th, '22, 15:55
asher2789 wrote: Mar 14th, '22, 11:09when you factor in that most americans ... have negative net worths
Link to evidence please?
30% according to FT have no net worth outside of their homes, or negative net worth. this is 2018... just wait until the inevitable housing market crash. https://www.ft.com/content/a463514b-982 ... 8b4b09ad2d

according to reuters, 2/5 of federal income taxes reported net loses, and the middle fifth reported barely any income. in 2018. i would love to see the 2022 numbers. http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/rn ... index.html

you can argue the semantics as to what criteria counts as most, and what property you want to factor into net worth, but just remember that our society is 9 missed meals by a plurality of people away from a revolution.
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Republicans believe the market should drive wages, hence most low skill jobs are at $15 per hour.

Trump drove down the price of insulin, dummy

https://nypost.com/2020/05/26/trump-cut ... 5-a-month/

Forcing a pizza shop owner to pay a waitress for 12 weeks because she had a baby would put him out of business. Get real.
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Came across some interesting statistics today. For all those folks who think Trump had something to do with increasing US oil production, take a look at this source: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafH ... rfpus2&f=m

As you can see, oil production had been on an upward trajectory from around 2009. Production increased just as much during Obama's administration as during Trump's. You can also see that production has been increasing since Biden took office. Fluctuations in production had to do with the shale oil boom, Covid, etc. The market is what caused these fluctuations, not anything any President did.

Take a look at this 2014 article for some context: https://www.strausscenter.org/energy-an ... production.
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easyrider16 wrote: Mar 17th, '22, 07:25 The market is what caused fluctuations in production, not anything any President did.
So you're saying regulatory action has no effect on production?
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Mister Moose wrote: Mar 17th, '22, 07:35
easyrider16 wrote: Mar 17th, '22, 07:25 The market is what caused fluctuations in production, not anything any President did.
So you're saying regulatory action has no effect on production?
No, I'm not. Question, though, have their been any major regulatory changes in the last decade sufficient to significantly affect production? If so, what are they?
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