And the kids with bad parents, kids that happened to be born into unthinkable socioeconomic situations - you know - the ones that are borderline unteachable - the hooligans who don't value an education - they get left behind - because of who they happened to be born to?Mister Moose wrote: ↑Jul 3rd, '23, 12:59Stop thinking wealthy privilege, and start thinking choice for everyone. There are many successful, highly desired charter schools in urban areas that have extremely high minority populations. These charter schools in many cases do what public schools have taken out - dress codes, discipline, core academics, work. There are waiting lists.easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 3rd, '23, 06:46How does school choice address the problem of racial inequality in the real world? If any parent can choose to put their kids in the best schools, who do you think is going to be in the best schools? Seems to me it will be the kids whose parents have the most money and influence, which is not likely to include a proportionate share of minorities.Fancypants wrote: ↑Jul 2nd, '23, 21:45You're on to something there....might be called school choice???easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 2nd, '23, 07:55 I don't think the issue right now is that universities might not accept highly qualified minority candidates like Thomas. I think the issue now is that it is difficult for minority students to achieve those high qualifications to even be considered.
The cry from teacher unions is "You're just taking the good students and leaving us with the difficult ones, and taking the funding with them" "Slow learners, behavior challenged students, and others need to be intermingled and made to feel normal"
To which I have listened to for 30 years and now wonder if there is any sense in that. The corollary is "Screw the education of the motivated, want to learn students". There are students that are nearly unteachable. Should they have a right to infect the classroom learning environment? I don't think so. Let there be a school for hooligans who do not value their education, and a school for earnest young minds. There is likely an efficiency in teaching like abilities/behaviors, rather than thinking you can make progress in a disruptive classroom.
If parents want a child in a good school, they need to teach their children good social behavior and a curiosity to learn before they even get to the first day of school.
Sure there's some bad teachers out there. Talk to a good teacher, and what you find is the real problem is the parents. Good parents should be able to choose where to send their child, regardless of that parent's race, income or zip code. That's a real lack of discrimination.
I'm sure that isn't what you mean, but it sure sounds like what you are saying and what the unintended consequences could be.