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I hope Tucker and that quack SG gets sued like Fox did. Screw those scumbags
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Crazy .... Fox News interviews Curtis Sliwa as his Guardian Angels appear to rough up a migrant in the background.

https://x.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/175 ... 96558?s=20
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easyrider16 wrote: Mar 17th, '23, 07:30 With stories like this floating around, how can you fault the DOJ and left-wing media for investigating a possible Trump-Russia connection?
A federal criminal investigation into former President Donald Trump’s media company Trump Media has expanded to include potential money laundering violations linked to an $8 million loan with Russian ties, the Guardian reported Wednesday, potentially further threatening the ex-president’s media company and its planned merger with special purpose acquisition company Digital World Acquisition Corp (DWAC).
The payments came from Paxum Bank, which is registered in Dominica, and ES Family Trust, and the Guardian reports Paxum Bank is partly owned by Anton Postolnikov, an apparent relation of Aleksandr Smirnov, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin who worked for Putin’s government until 2017 and now runs the Russian-controlled maritime company Rosmorport.
I realize this is after the fact, but it's just one of many links between Trump's business activities and Russia, such as Trump's business looking into building a tower in Moscow in 2016. To suggest that the media reporting on Trump's links to Russia is baseless is really a stretch. I'm not saying there was direct collusion, but I think Trump definitely had a conflict of interest where Putin was concerned, and many of his decisions as President were colored by that conflict of interest (see e.g. Helsinki).

Compare that with the claims of election fraud - which, as time goes on, look more and more baseless.

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... to-russia/
GOPs star impeachment witness, indicted.

DOJ has charged Smirnov with "false statements" and obstruction in relation to Hunter and Joe Biden
https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/media ... ovdelivery
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Feb 15th, '24, 16:42
easyrider16 wrote: Mar 17th, '23, 07:30 With stories like this floating around, how can you fault the DOJ and left-wing media for investigating a possible Trump-Russia connection?
A federal criminal investigation into former President Donald Trump’s media company Trump Media has expanded to include potential money laundering violations linked to an $8 million loan with Russian ties, the Guardian reported Wednesday, potentially further threatening the ex-president’s media company and its planned merger with special purpose acquisition company Digital World Acquisition Corp (DWAC).
The payments came from Paxum Bank, which is registered in Dominica, and ES Family Trust, and the Guardian reports Paxum Bank is partly owned by Anton Postolnikov, an apparent relation of Aleksandr Smirnov, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin who worked for Putin’s government until 2017 and now runs the Russian-controlled maritime company Rosmorport.
I realize this is after the fact, but it's just one of many links between Trump's business activities and Russia, such as Trump's business looking into building a tower in Moscow in 2016. To suggest that the media reporting on Trump's links to Russia is baseless is really a stretch. I'm not saying there was direct collusion, but I think Trump definitely had a conflict of interest where Putin was concerned, and many of his decisions as President were colored by that conflict of interest (see e.g. Helsinki).

Compare that with the claims of election fraud - which, as time goes on, look more and more baseless.

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... to-russia/
GOPs star impeachment witness, indicted.

DOJ has charged Smirnov with "false statements" and obstruction in relation to Hunter and Joe Biden
https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/media ... ovdelivery
The right wing pundits will spin it as the Biden White House intimidating witnesses.
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Bubba wrote: Feb 15th, '24, 17:35
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Feb 15th, '24, 16:42
easyrider16 wrote: Mar 17th, '23, 07:30 With stories like this floating around, how can you fault the DOJ and left-wing media for investigating a possible Trump-Russia connection?
A federal criminal investigation into former President Donald Trump’s media company Trump Media has expanded to include potential money laundering violations linked to an $8 million loan with Russian ties, the Guardian reported Wednesday, potentially further threatening the ex-president’s media company and its planned merger with special purpose acquisition company Digital World Acquisition Corp (DWAC).
The payments came from Paxum Bank, which is registered in Dominica, and ES Family Trust, and the Guardian reports Paxum Bank is partly owned by Anton Postolnikov, an apparent relation of Aleksandr Smirnov, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin who worked for Putin’s government until 2017 and now runs the Russian-controlled maritime company Rosmorport.
I realize this is after the fact, but it's just one of many links between Trump's business activities and Russia, such as Trump's business looking into building a tower in Moscow in 2016. To suggest that the media reporting on Trump's links to Russia is baseless is really a stretch. I'm not saying there was direct collusion, but I think Trump definitely had a conflict of interest where Putin was concerned, and many of his decisions as President were colored by that conflict of interest (see e.g. Helsinki).

Compare that with the claims of election fraud - which, as time goes on, look more and more baseless.

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... to-russia/
GOPs star impeachment witness, indicted.

DOJ has charged Smirnov with "false statements" and obstruction in relation to Hunter and Joe Biden
https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/media ... ovdelivery
The right wing pundits will spin it as the Biden White House intimidating witnesses.
Gee, I wonder what Hannity will say. He ran this BS story 85 times last year

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/17 ... 6447737249
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I just finished reading “Network of Lies” that traces the Dominion lawsuit and uses all the depositions and other materials and sources to basically define Fox as a propaganda machine with no regard for facts. It’s actually as bad or worse than many here think, driven by money, riven by internal rivalries and disrespect for management.
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Has FOX NEWS learned it lesson? This seems a dangerous game, but IANAL.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jesse-wat ... money-case
It didn’t take long after the general outlines of seven jurors in Donald Trump’s New York criminal trial were made public Tuesday for Fox News host Jesse Watters to suggest that, based on that information alone, Trump wouldn’t be acquitted.

While on air Tuesday night, Watters went through each juror, whose identities will remain anonymous in light of the potential for threats directed at them.

The second juror, Watters described, is “a nurse from the Upper East Side with a Masters degree.”

“She’s not married, has no kids and lives with her fiancé who works in finance,” Watters said, chuckling for some reason. “She gets her news from The New York Times, Google and CNN.”

Two items in this juror’s questionnaire “really stuck out,” according to Watters: “‘I don’t really have an opinion of Trump,’ and ‘No one is above the law.’ I’m not so sure about juror No. 2,” Watters reacted, stopping short of explaining why. Watters later said vaguely that he found her to be “concerning.”
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As high as the payout was, it was not high enough to have a substantial deterrent effect. Fox had many times that amount sitting in cash on its balance sheet. They just wrote a check and it did not hurt them at all, really.

Put another way, when you have $4 billion sitting in cash in a bank account, a $787 million-dollar fine isn't really going to hurt you much. Looking at some numbers, Fox rakes in over $14 billion a year in revenue, and nets over $1.2 billion in profit, so it won't even take them a full year to recoup that loss.

As another example, look at the scapegoat, Tucker Carlson. He's still operating, still putting out content, and it would not surprise me if he's still making a lot of money doing it. Bottom line, nobody was really held responsible.
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Has Fox gone woke?

Fox News takes down Hunter Biden ‘mock trial’ miniseries after lawsuit threat
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/30/politics ... index.html
Fox News on Tuesday removed a six-part Hunter Biden miniseries from its streaming platform, after his attorneys threatened to sue the right-wing network over the incendiary and at-times sexually explicit program about his legal troubles.

The removal is a swift response from the conservative media juggernaut, whose spokespeople were defending the material as recently as Tuesday morning.

“This program was produced in and has been available since 2022,” a Fox News Media spokesperson said in a statement. “We are reviewing the concerns that have just been raised and – out of an abundance of caution in the interim – have taken it down.”

The program, titled “The Trial of Hunter Biden,” was an offering on the Fox Nation digital streaming network. It was also promoted on Fox News, the cable TV channel.

As of Tuesday afternoon, the link on the Fox Nation site for the six-episode series was not working. Episodes that were available before the lawsuit threat are no longer accessible.

The dispute primarily revolves around sexually explicit images of Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden’s son, with women that were shown on-screen during the program, which featured a “mock trial” about his overseas financial dealings that led in part to his federal tax indictment and has also fueled House Republicans’ struggling impeachment inquiry into his father.

Hunter Biden has pleaded not guilty to the federal charges, and a trial in California is scheduled to begin in late June.

His lawyers accused Fox of defamation and of “unlawful publication of hacked intimate images” that could violate “revenge porn” laws.

Fox denied wrongdoing, saying in a statement Tuesday morning that its coverage was accurate and “consistent with the First Amendment.”
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Apr 30th, '24, 15:58 Has Fox gone woke?

Fox News takes down Hunter Biden ‘mock trial’ miniseries after lawsuit threat
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/30/politics ... index.html
Fox News on Tuesday removed a six-part Hunter Biden miniseries from its streaming platform, after his attorneys threatened to sue the right-wing network over the incendiary and at-times sexually explicit program about his legal troubles.

The removal is a swift response from the conservative media juggernaut, whose spokespeople were defending the material as recently as Tuesday morning.

“This program was produced in and has been available since 2022,” a Fox News Media spokesperson said in a statement. “We are reviewing the concerns that have just been raised and – out of an abundance of caution in the interim – have taken it down.”

The program, titled “The Trial of Hunter Biden,” was an offering on the Fox Nation digital streaming network. It was also promoted on Fox News, the cable TV channel.

As of Tuesday afternoon, the link on the Fox Nation site for the six-episode series was not working. Episodes that were available before the lawsuit threat are no longer accessible.

The dispute primarily revolves around sexually explicit images of Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden’s son, with women that were shown on-screen during the program, which featured a “mock trial” about his overseas financial dealings that led in part to his federal tax indictment and has also fueled House Republicans’ struggling impeachment inquiry into his father.

Hunter Biden has pleaded not guilty to the federal charges, and a trial in California is scheduled to begin in late June.

His lawyers accused Fox of defamation and of “unlawful publication of hacked intimate images” that could violate “revenge porn” laws.

Fox denied wrongdoing, saying in a statement Tuesday morning that its coverage was accurate and “consistent with the First Amendment.”
Well, that defense worked out well the first time, right?
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Bubba wrote: May 1st, '24, 09:47
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Apr 30th, '24, 15:58 Has Fox gone woke?

Fox News takes down Hunter Biden ‘mock trial’ miniseries after lawsuit threat
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/30/politics ... index.html
Fox News on Tuesday removed a six-part Hunter Biden miniseries from its streaming platform, after his attorneys threatened to sue the right-wing network over the incendiary and at-times sexually explicit program about his legal troubles.

The removal is a swift response from the conservative media juggernaut, whose spokespeople were defending the material as recently as Tuesday morning.

“This program was produced in and has been available since 2022,” a Fox News Media spokesperson said in a statement. “We are reviewing the concerns that have just been raised and – out of an abundance of caution in the interim – have taken it down.”

The program, titled “The Trial of Hunter Biden,” was an offering on the Fox Nation digital streaming network. It was also promoted on Fox News, the cable TV channel.

As of Tuesday afternoon, the link on the Fox Nation site for the six-episode series was not working. Episodes that were available before the lawsuit threat are no longer accessible.

The dispute primarily revolves around sexually explicit images of Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden’s son, with women that were shown on-screen during the program, which featured a “mock trial” about his overseas financial dealings that led in part to his federal tax indictment and has also fueled House Republicans’ struggling impeachment inquiry into his father.

Hunter Biden has pleaded not guilty to the federal charges, and a trial in California is scheduled to begin in late June.

His lawyers accused Fox of defamation and of “unlawful publication of hacked intimate images” that could violate “revenge porn” laws.

Fox denied wrongdoing, saying in a statement Tuesday morning that its coverage was accurate and “consistent with the First Amendment.”
Well, that defense worked out well the first time, right?
Defamation is not protected speech 8)
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Lets check in with FOX NEWS and how they covered yesterday:

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1795985885705760981
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Wow, that's absolutely wild. For those who don't know, the charges in the indictment are read out loud to the jury at the outset of the trial. Then, after the jury hears all the evidence, the judge gives specific, detailed instructions describing precisely the elements of each crime charged. What Hannity is saying here is completely made up. He also incorrectly said the jurors don't all have to agree.

If anyone cares to delve further, here's a link to the actual jury instructions given at the end of this trial. Page 27 starts the very detailed explanation of what the charges are. On p.26 it says the verdict has to be unanimous.
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-ho ... rcna154588
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easyrider16 wrote: May 30th, '24, 08:17 Wow, that's absolutely wild. For those who don't know, the charges in the indictment are read out loud to the jury at the outset of the trial. Then, after the jury hears all the evidence, the judge gives specific, detailed instructions describing precisely the elements of each crime charged. What Hannity is saying here is completely made up. He also incorrectly said the jurors don't all have to agree.

If anyone cares to delve further, here's a link to the actual jury instructions given at the end of this trial. Page 27 starts the very detailed explanation of what the charges are. On p.26 it says the verdict has to be unanimous.
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-ho ... rcna154588
It's no surprise FOX NEWS viewers believe the trial is a sham/rigged ... that's how FOX NEWS is positioning it.

Yesterday, my MAGA buddies said it's rigged (again). When asked for more detail they said the jurors are leftists. I asked how they knew and they said 'it's common sense'. When I asked why the defense would allow leftists to be seated, they said defense had the opportunity to interview jurors but ultimately were forced to seat leftist jurors. When I asked what they meant by 'forced', they said 'it's common sense'.

My buddies are smart and educated guys that are otherwise totally normal aside from their MAGA/Trump views. Tribalism is wild.
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They certainly don't sound "smart" and quite frankly their excuse of "common sense" is exactly what they are lacking.
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