Smoke

[ANGUS]

First world problems for aviation and travel. Nova scotia is taking it hard. Quebec too. The haze is bad here in NH. A member of my fire duty company was deployed last week, 1 of 20 sent north from New England task force. Imagine loosing your home?

[asher2789]

FAA issues ground stop at LaGuardia Airport in New York due to smoke
From CNN's Pete Muntean
The Federal Aviation Administration has implemented a ground stop for flights bound for New York’s LaGuardia Airport due to smoke.

Flights going to LaGuardia are being kept at their departing airports until 2 p.m. ET, according to an FAA bulletin. The FAA says the chance of an extension is “low,” but delays could follow.

This is blowing smoke up somebody...

Airlines routinely land and take off at visibilities under 1/4 mile. Recent runway visibilities:

Teterboro: 1 ¼ mile, worst it's been all day
Newark: 1/2 mile, worst it's been all day
La Guardia: 1 full mile, worst it's been all day
White Plains: 1 mile
Bridgeport: 1 mile

Newark is worse than La Guardia, no idea why LGA issued a ground stop.

The particulate matter in smoke probably far worse for jet engines than water vapor. La Guardia likely has more trans Atlantic flights, less opportunities to divert if there are engine issues. Red Rider would be the expert, though.

I'm sure there is some quantifiable amount of increase wear in smoke, but I never heard of suspended operations. The time you saw that was volcanic, the airborne ash was a no-fly zone. I guess they think the smoke in Queens is more abrasive than elsewhere. And JFK has far more international arrivals and departures.

100% guessing here, but i bet the smoke changes the physics of getting enough lift to actually fly as smoke would likely change how heavy air is... like flying may be possible, but the speed/weight/etc to make a plane fly in these conditions might be beyond what the planes are engineered for. not to mention visibility being like fog.

[spanky]

Taken at 2 PM today. NJ is out there somewhere.

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Then later at 7 PM. If you zoom in, you might see the Chrysler Building.

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[skiadikt]

fwiw, tonight's yankee game was postponed. a friend in nyc said that the AQI reached 377 (300+ considered hazardous) this afternoon - the worst level in nyc history. she went out a few mins with a blue mask and was choking. replaced it w an N95 to water her plants and in a few minutes her eyes were burning. said her neighborhood was a ghost town.

[buckethead]

First world problems for aviation and travel. Nova scotia is taking it hard. Quebec too. The haze is bad here in NH. A member of my fire duty company was deployed last week, 1 of 20 sent north from New England task force. Imagine loosing your home?

wish your company colleague safety and success. as of this morning 126 canadian fired are out of control.

i never imagined a fire that far north could wreak so much havoc over so much of the US...but of course that's how the cold and snow gets down our way.

and nyc has the worst pollution on the planet right now, with smoke getting down to the carolinas. be safe, all.

[daytripper]

NYC had the worst pollution on the planet yesterday, no where near as bad today. Still hazy and you can vaguely smell the smoke but incredibly better conditions than yesterday when it looked like the apocalypse. From about noon to 3 the world outside my window was orange.

[buckethead]

^* glad to hear. the mars-like images of nyc were pretty disturbing.

[TheRat]

airnow.gov

[twilkas]

NW CT cleared enough to see a normal sun this afternoon. the whole wrap around appeared to have shifted a bit north, but think it
was a temporary clear spot here. hard to say what's normal cloud cover vs smoke via radar.

[ANGUS]

First world problems for aviation and travel. Nova scotia is taking it hard. Quebec too. The haze is bad here in NH. A member of my fire duty company was deployed last week, 1 of 20 sent north from New England task force. Imagine loosing your home?

wish your company colleague safety and success. as of this morning 126 canadian fired are out of control.

i never imagined a fire that far north could wreak so much havoc over so much of the US...but of course that's how the cold and snow gets down our way.

and nyc has the worst pollution on the planet right now, with smoke getting down to the carolinas. be safe, all.

I just heard from my fellow brother. Mapping out perimeter. They got some r*in. Digging out hot spots. So they don't rekindle.

[buckethead]

^^ glad to hear. noble work he's doing and wish him and all the other brave firefighters safety and success.

we got clear skies this afternoon in NYS though now philly is at epicenter. and next - who knows.

hope all the philly area kzoners are safe and well - and that your skies clear next.

[asher2789]

First world problems for aviation and travel. Nova scotia is taking it hard. Quebec too. The haze is bad here in NH. A member of my fire duty company was deployed last week, 1 of 20 sent north from New England task force. Imagine loosing your home?

just read this article and thought of your comment. vermont was only able to send two firefighters due to a lack of people. scary to think of, should we be hit with fires ourselves. not to veer too far into political but i cant help but wonder if the proliferation of short term rentals and second homes has led to people who would be volunteer firefighters / first responders to move out of state and volunteer elsewhere, or be unable to volunteer due to working longer hours to make it work here economically. i also wonder if this is a problem nationwide - less volunteers per capita than in decades past, due to the ever burdening squeeze placed on those who partake in wage labor where they dont have the time or energy to volunteer.

[Big Bob]

First world problems for aviation and travel. Nova scotia is taking it hard. Quebec too. The haze is bad here in NH. A member of my fire duty company was deployed last week, 1 of 20 sent north from New England task force. Imagine loosing your home?

just read this article and thought of your comment. vermont was only able to send two firefighters due to a lack of people. scary to think of, should we be hit with fires ourselves. not to veer too far into political but i cant help but wonder if the proliferation of short term rentals and second homes has led to people who would be volunteer firefighters / first responders to move out of state and volunteer elsewhere, or be unable to volunteer due to working longer hours to make it work here economically. i also wonder if this is a problem nationwide - less volunteers per capita than in decades past, due to the ever burdening squeeze placed on those who partake in wage labor where they dont have the time or energy to volunteer.

My town in NH had to hire 2 full time fireman to cover pretty much the whole week due to lack of volunteeres espically during normal working hours. Our chief is also now a paid position. The next town over is also hurting for volunteers and has to rely on mutual aid from surronding towns. They cannot send anybody during certain times of the day. Public works employees are also in short supply. If you have a CDL B and know how to drive a plow truck you can start at $25.00/ hour to lean on a shovel most of the year. So, yes it is also a problem in non resort areas in New England.

[random1]

LaGuardia has zero trans Atlantic flights as it is not an international airport.

It is international, but no transatlantic. 1500mi radius to/from LGA


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[daytripper]

LaGuardia has zero trans Atlantic flights as it is not an international airport.

It is international, but no transatlantic. 1500mi radius to/from LGA


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There are no customs at LaGuardia, I do know of the 1500 rule but not sure on international outside of Canada and us territories in the Caribbean.