Crime

[deadheadskier]

You sound well adjusted

Have fun

Sorry facts and data stand in the way of the false narratives you've been suckered into believing.

[KingsFourMan]

It's not complicated...

[deadheadskier]

Small government? Who do you think is going to protect you from all of these perceived Boogeymen in society that are coming to get you?

[KingsFourMan]

Oh i've got protection, don't you worry about that...

[deadheadskier]

Oh i've got protection, don't you worry about that...

Woah! Didn't realize we had such a badass in our midst

Which unit do you serve on? Gravy Seals? Meal Team 6?

[Dickc]

This is an op ed!

I think everyone has missed what is causing many to feel crime is on the rise. The internet is now about 30 years old. Prior to that we all had to depend on newspapers, TV and radio for news. Now we get it instantly, and many people have become internet news reporters. Second, digital cameras really were uncommon prior to about the year 2000. Before that you needed a film camera, and developing pictures took time. Third, the smart phone came out in 2008. It only became ubiquitous about 10 years ago. Finally surveillance cameras are cheap and are virtually anywhere. Try going down any road in any neighborhood, you will most likely be caught on at least one camera.

We now have INSTANT news. Anyone can take a video of something disturbing and post it. Going viral can be a mater of minutes. We may have a lower level of crime, but from all the above, we have greater exposure to it. We also now have internet crimes, something that was more or less unheard of two decades ago. Scams by email, pop ups with nefarious intent, hacking of bank accounts, etc. We really do not have a long history of these to compare to.

All of this leads people to be much more aware of the crime that had been happening over decades. Its now, so to speak, up close and personal. Everyone needs to chill and realize how this affects our lives, and what effect it has our sense of safety. (I hope I used effect and affect correctly!)

[deadheadskier]

Bingo

Just because you see and hear about more crime, doesn't mean there is more crime.

The data says we are about the safest today in America that we've ever been.

Probably the most mentally ill we've ever been at the same time due to too much negative information consumption.

[boston_e]

After reading (allegedly) that they are trying to tie Ukraine and Israel funding to it as well as a 5000 per day cap before shutting down the border I’m not surprised the house won’t touch it. Not good enough.

Looks like you are believing lies:

There is no provision for 5000 people to enter illegally per day.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-b ... r-BB1hztWr

Pretty hard to argue with anything in this bill - unless of course you are a republican who would rather just use the border as a political issue.

[XtremeJibber2001]

Assessment of Border Bill from Fox's own Bill Melugin ... GOP House Speaker already against it saying it's worse than expected and doesn't fix the border.
https://twitter.com/BillMelugin_/status ... 8818748801

- No amnesty/legalization of anyone already in the U.S. illegally.

- Funds an increase in ICE detention capacity to approx. 50,000 from the current 34,000.

- At 7 day rolling average of 5,000 encounters per day, or 8,500 encounters in a single day, DHS is *required* to shut the border down, and turn away anyone who crosses. No new asylum claims will be allowed and anybody crossing will be removed. Would end the whole idea of "I made it to U.S. soil, you have to process me." That would be over, Border Patrol would not process the illegal crosser and they would be removed - no asylum claim permitted, unless its made at a port of entry.

- This does not mean 5,000 are "allowed in" before this authority kicks in. Single adults would be detained, families would be released via ATD (alternatives to detention), and asylum cases would be fast tracked to months rather than years under a new rapid/expedited expulsion system. Those who fail would be quickly removed from the US. Those who initially pass would be released with work authorization and 90 day supervision until final asylum claim is determined.

- The shut down authority doesn't drop until crossings decrease significantly in the days following the shut down.

- Significantly tougher asylum requirements, and a higher credible fear standard, including three bars to eligibility. 1) Criminal history, 2) Could they have resettled in another country on the way to the US? 3) Could they have resettled somewhere else in their own country? Just saying you're scared to return home will no longer be enough in initial interview.

- It *appears* that the legislation would move asylum claim decisions away from immigration judges, and instead have them be handled by USCIS.

- $1.4 billion in FEMA funding available for disbursement to NGOs/municipalities, but some of that money doesn't unlock until key border security metrics are hit with ICE detention beds, ICE & Border Patrol new hires, and at least 1,500 deportation flights.

- Ends use of parole releases via CBP One app, and ends parole for illegal crossers between ports of entry.

- Keeps humanitarian parole as it was originally intended (medical procedures, court cases, etc), and keeps the current Biden admin parole program in place for Cubans, Haitians, Venezuelans, and Nicaraguans.

- 50,000 new visas over 5 years.

- Fuding to hire hundreds more ICE deportation officers, Border Patrol agents, and USCIS asylum officers, and greatly increases number of deportation flights.

- No unaccompanied minors can be removed, and some of these minors will receive attorneys, either pro bono or taxpayer funded.

- Ends some catch and release, but not all (families and unaccompanied minors not detained).

- DHS will have 90 days to set this new system up before it takes effect.

- There is a provision in the bill that would allow the President to suspend the "shut down" authority.
It says: "Authorizes the President to suspend the border emergency on an emergency basis for up to 45 days if it is in the national interest."

Context: The border has seen at least 5,000 encounters almost every single day the last couple years under Biden. If this bill were signed into law, the border would likely be shut down on the first day it takes effect.

FOX is told by the architects of this legislation the status quo right now is when the border is overwhelmed, "release everyone". They say this bill switches that to, when the border is overwhelmed "remove everyone."

This legislation has provisions in it that will upset border hawks and immigration activists at the same time.

[XtremeJibber2001]

Uber predictable ....

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1754607518456635745?s=20

Mace: This bill keeps the border wide open.

MacCallum: Have you read all 370 pages of this bill?

Mace: We're working through it. It waters down the asylum laws

MacCallum: it’s exactly the opposite. That’s why I’m asking

[TheLurker]

The problem in Vermont is bail law. If you can’t hold someone in jail after arrest (subject to release on bail) and you simply release with a future court date, you encourage repeat offenses. Same goes for DUI. How many times do we hear on the news of an accident with death resulting where the offender is on DUI Six or even higher?

So people, who are presumed innocent, that can’t afford bail should sit in jail indefinitely until their court date? Meanwhile rich f*** like a former president can pay bail and walk free while awaiting trial?

[daytripper]

The problem in Vermont is bail law. If you can’t hold someone in jail after arrest (subject to release on bail) and you simply release with a future court date, you encourage repeat offenses. Same goes for DUI. How many times do we hear on the news of an accident with death resulting where the offender is on DUI Six or even higher?

So people, who are presumed innocent, that can’t afford bail should sit in jail indefinitely until their court date? Meanwhile rich f*** like a former president can pay bail and walk free while awaiting trial?

So people that attack police should get RORed? The bail laws in NYC are ridiculous. You can assault a police officer and get released the same day without bail. How is that good for society? There needs to be a medium. The bail laws are a failure.

[Bubba]

The problem in Vermont is bail law. If you can’t hold someone in jail after arrest (subject to release on bail) and you simply release with a future court date, you encourage repeat offenses. Same goes for DUI. How many times do we hear on the news of an accident with death resulting where the offender is on DUI Six or even higher?

So people, who are presumed innocent, that can’t afford bail should sit in jail indefinitely until their court date? Meanwhile rich f*** like a former president can pay bail and walk free while awaiting trial?

I have no problem with bail for first time offenders. It’s the repeaters who need to have bail posted and, if a first timer is released on a desk appearance ticket and is caught again before trial then bail is necessary.

[easyrider16]

I think Massachusetts has the right take on this bail issue. Bail is freely given and used only to guarantee appearance in court. However, if there is evidence of a violent crime or history of violent crime or threat to public safety by the accused, the prosecution can petition to have the accused held without bail. This is granted in many cases here.

I don't think bail has much practical effect on recidivism. If you use the example of DUI, the problem is alcoholism is an addiction, and addicts don't consider consequences when they want to get their fix. That's why it's common to see multiple offenses with DUIs and other drug crimes - these are addicts who can't stop themselves. Here in MA, your license gets suspended for 8 years after a 3rd DUI, and ten years after a 4th DUI, and with your 5th, it's permanently revoked. This often does not stop people from getting behind the wheel anyway.

[TheLurker]

The article below indicates at least six of them required bail.

https://nypost.com/2024/02/18/us-news/w ... melee/amp/