First, (squirm, shuffle), hello all.
So.....anybody know the pass-pull policy at K for off trail excusions for season pass holders? Is it still 3 strikes and you're out?
Season pass penalty policy??
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Benny Profane
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Season pass penalty policy??
Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead.
trail exclusions sound so much more pc that ducking ropes or poaching.
i wish there was a standard answer to your Q, but it varies in every situation. best bet is don't get caught and don't be stupid about it like a high visibility poach. some skiing service's personel are real dbags on a power trip others are cool.
it seems like poaching trails and the associated punishments have diminished over the past few years. a while back taking your pass wasn't uncommon. seems like poaching was a more serious offense than it is now.
me on the other hand, i usually get the "don't you live here, i know that i've seen you around, you know better than this" routine. besides i'm friendly w/ alot of the skiing services people and i dont like to put them, or myself, in that situation. so no stupid or high profile poaches for me
i wish there was a standard answer to your Q, but it varies in every situation. best bet is don't get caught and don't be stupid about it like a high visibility poach. some skiing service's personel are real dbags on a power trip others are cool.
it seems like poaching trails and the associated punishments have diminished over the past few years. a while back taking your pass wasn't uncommon. seems like poaching was a more serious offense than it is now.
me on the other hand, i usually get the "don't you live here, i know that i've seen you around, you know better than this" routine. besides i'm friendly w/ alot of the skiing services people and i dont like to put them, or myself, in that situation. so no stupid or high profile poaches for me
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Benny Profane
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I'll try to get more info, but I think it goes like this:
first offense, they pull your pass for the day
Second offense, they pull it for 30 days
Third offense, for the season.
If you're nice, they usually give you a tongue lashing the first time.
Welcome to the mix Benny!
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first offense, they pull your pass for the day
Second offense, they pull it for 30 days
Third offense, for the season.
If you're nice, they usually give you a tongue lashing the first time.
Welcome to the mix Benny!
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Mmmmmm, sidecountry....
cool! I'm getting mine mounted, they'll be ready when I go up next weekend. The past few days would have been excellent for them.Benny Profane wrote:not yet, dork. but it looked like Friday was a fine day for the Phantoms on my feet while I ducked ropes. Just picked up everything from the shop. I'm ready.
You up next weekend? I'm gonna take them out even if it's just groomers to check them out.
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I was told by one the higher muckety mucks that they're going for more enforcement this season, that poaching has gotten out of hand, and they're concerned about the potential problem of people getting hurt in areas that are closed and nobody knowing about it. I'm just guessing but I'm thinking this might be an extension of resorts trying to collect from people who ski out of bounds then require search and rescue.
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Poaching
Two Tips:
1) Don't poach it unless you can rip it --
The longer you take -- stopping to rest, picking your way down, etc. the more likely you get caught...
2) Don't duck a rope to get in - the trail's still closed, you're still not supposed to ski it, but you've got plausible deniability.
3) Avoid "exposed" poaches -- If the trail is high visibility, its like you're daring ski patrol to pull the pass (e.g. Ovation)
4) Be nice to the Patroller -- smile, oh I'm sorry..., etc. etc...
Best poach ever -- christmas eve, they'd been blowing snow on the Double Dip of three days without opening it -- 3:59 K-1... no lif's turning we decided we couldn't resist it Thigh Deep Powder all the way down.
1) Don't poach it unless you can rip it --
The longer you take -- stopping to rest, picking your way down, etc. the more likely you get caught...
2) Don't duck a rope to get in - the trail's still closed, you're still not supposed to ski it, but you've got plausible deniability.
3) Avoid "exposed" poaches -- If the trail is high visibility, its like you're daring ski patrol to pull the pass (e.g. Ovation)
4) Be nice to the Patroller -- smile, oh I'm sorry..., etc. etc...
Best poach ever -- christmas eve, they'd been blowing snow on the Double Dip of three days without opening it -- 3:59 K-1... no lif's turning we decided we couldn't resist it Thigh Deep Powder all the way down.
down thousand drops of death, bear mountain quad to watch the bumpers, but we be hittin Bear's Ass cuz we be the cliff jumpers..
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Benny Profane
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well, I try to avoid Saturdays, especially early season, but, hey, if it snows....SkiDork wrote: You up next weekend? I'm gonna take them out even if it's just groomers to check them out.
Bring some sharp edged things besides the Phantoms. You can use them on groomers, but they will feel cumbersome after a few runs. Unless you want to talk about them - EVERYBODY will be bugging you about them. Good way to pick up chicks.
Sounds like dealing with the patrol will be the same as avoiding a ticket on my ride up. Luck and more luck and a little sh*t. "I was going that fast, officer? Oh, I'm so sorry........"
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I've been Busted by ski patrol twice:
1. Stratton. The ski patrol saw me skiing the deep stuff and chased me down. Told them that I had tenitis in my ears (which is partly true; that's what 150+ shows will do to you) and that's why I couldn't hear them yelling at me to stop. They let me off with a warning.
2. Gore. Was the first major dump of the year and the new Topridge glades had never been skied; Had to do it. The patrol waited for me at the bottom of the lift and put a big black "X" over my season pass, which they considered a final warning.
This year, I don't have a ski pass to any resort, so I don't really care that much if i get busted. Eastern powder is priceless. More concerned about getting hurt on a closed trail (sometimes they are closed for a reason) and no one finding me.
1. Stratton. The ski patrol saw me skiing the deep stuff and chased me down. Told them that I had tenitis in my ears (which is partly true; that's what 150+ shows will do to you) and that's why I couldn't hear them yelling at me to stop. They let me off with a warning.
2. Gore. Was the first major dump of the year and the new Topridge glades had never been skied; Had to do it. The patrol waited for me at the bottom of the lift and put a big black "X" over my season pass, which they considered a final warning.
This year, I don't have a ski pass to any resort, so I don't really care that much if i get busted. Eastern powder is priceless. More concerned about getting hurt on a closed trail (sometimes they are closed for a reason) and no one finding me.
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That's the reason you should never ski trees alone or duck ropes alone. If you get hurt you need to have someone call for help.St. Jerry wrote:This year, I don't have a ski pass to any resort, so I don't really care that much if i get busted. Eastern powder is priceless. More concerned about getting hurt on a closed trail (sometimes they are closed for a reason) and no one finding me.
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Benny Profane
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hmmmm......I'm also concerned about Gore, 'cause I'm kinda new there, and the tree stashes are many. So they seem to be saying 2 strikes and gone.St. Jerry wrote: 2. Gore. Was the first major dump of the year and the new Topridge glades had never been skied; Had to do it. The patrol waited for me at the bottom of the lift and put a big black "X" over my season pass, which they considered a final warning.
hehe - glad I bought an Empire card. Take my pass sucka, I'll see ya tomorrow.....
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