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USGS markers, United States Geoogical Survey markers.pwdrskier wrote:How the hell do they not know how high their mountain is. If you go to the true peak or highest point there will be a marker that is a copper disk nailed to a rock this will tell you the height. I forgot what they are called but It was measured by the Parks department I believe.
P.S. I also hike so we use these all the time to see elevation since I don't have a GPS.
Dr. NO wrote:USGS markers, United States Geoogical Survey markers.pwdrskier wrote:How the hell do they not know how high their mountain is. If you go to the true peak or highest point there will be a marker that is a copper disk nailed to a rock this will tell you the height. I forgot what they are called but It was measured by the Parks department I believe.
P.S. I also hike so we use these all the time to see elevation since I don't have a GPS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survey_marker
Bubba wrote:THE BEAST doesn't need anyone's help to measure its size.
Is that the foot long?Stormchaser wrote:Bubba wrote:THE BEAST doesn't need anyone's help to measure its size.
The BEAST doesn't measure itself, it just whips it out and says, ..."THAT BIG!"
Jeez all this hubbub over the difference.Marc Shepherd wrote:It's POWDR's fault. When Pres. Smith was here, the sources were all in agreement.Ski_the_Moguls wrote:The weather sites say 4235. The magazine says 4241. Sorry Junior, but this goes far beyond just you and Atomic1!
We want pictures damn it!Cuervo1.8k wrote:Jeez all this hubbub over the difference.Marc Shepherd wrote:It's POWDR's fault. When Pres. Smith was here, the sources were all in agreement.Ski_the_Moguls wrote:The weather sites say 4235. The magazine says 4241. Sorry Junior, but this goes far beyond just you and Atomic1!
The weather site uses the elevation of where the instruments sit on their tower on the peak. The actual height is 4241 where the aforementioned tag (actually a spike) placed by the USGS, who is responsible for doing so, is located.
c1.8k out
The USGS marker is not definitive in the absolute since its accuracy is limited to what was available back when it was placed. (Optical instruments) That's what all this datum talk is about. Most folks just go with what has been the historical number. Chances are Mt Washington, Pikes Peak, and Rainier probably are slightly inaccurate as well.Dr. NO wrote: . FIND THE MARKER!
AKA Theodel Lights and Mirrors. If it was good enough to put a Minuteman Missile within 4 feet of a target in the 70's after a 6000 Mile flight, it should be good enough to tell us what the altitude is on a Peak, damn it!Mister Moose wrote:The USGS marker is not definitive in the absolute since its accuracy is limited to what was available back when it was placed. (Optical instruments) That's what all this datum talk is about. Most folks just go with what has been the historical number. Chances are Mt Washington, Pikes Peak, and Rainier probably are slightly inaccurate as well.Dr. NO wrote: . FIND THE MARKER!
Now there's something to do in the Spring. Hike up, find a USGS marker, and see what the date on it is. I'll bet it's WAY older than 1970.Dr. NO wrote: AKA Theodel Lights and Mirrors. If it was good enough to put a Minuteman Missile within 4 feet of a target in the 70's after a 6000 Mile flight, it should be good enough to tell us what the altitude is on a Peak, damn it!
