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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
Kpdemello wrote:And what do we think about Trump claiming Schiff is going to alter transcripts when he releases them?of course they will be edited....it's absurd to think they won't be...schiff is under no obligation whatsoever to release them in their entirety vs not at all via the resolution they passed last week......he'll release what suits his needs and the MSM will call it a transcript and insist it's damning evidence...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 83766.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or this bit of ugly news:this is not "news" it's gossip...did you even read the article? no wonder you are so convinced...ya gotta do hat they tell you....
Report says one whistleblower is alleging that Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, approved Saudi plans to arrest Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi
According to Spectator, Turkey intercepted call between Kushner and Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman, and then used it to gain leverage over Trump
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rince.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If true, that last bit is stunning.
The latter would be a bombshell, but I'll wait to see what comes of it ... too much noise these days. Maybe this explains how cock sure Pelosi is all of a sudden.

As for Trump, you can add his warnings of a civil war to the list, in poker we'd say he's on tilt.
you guys are the most gullible @ssclowns on the planet...
The claim was made in a report in Cockburn gossip column of the U.S. edition of British conservative news magazine The Spectator.

The report also claimed that Turkish intelligence intercepted the call and President Recep Erdogan then used the information to force Donald Trump to remove his troops from northern Syria.

The report claims that investigators on the Democratic-led House Intelligence Committee are aware of these allegations and are planning to dig further into them while pursuing the impeachment inquiry over Trump's dealings with Ukraine.



It also claims that the number of intelligence 'whistleblowers' who have given or are willing to give evidence to the House Intelligence Committee's impeachment inquiry is seven, one of whom has made the claim about Kushner.

Spectator acknowledged of its own report 'whether any of this is true is another matter'
Kzone has more credibility...

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no one expects schiff to tell the truth...well maybe idiots do...
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:The latter would be a bombshell, but I'll wait to see what comes of it ... too much noise these days. Maybe this explains how cock sure Pelosi is all of a sudden.
It does sound pretty far-fetched, but we'll see what shakes out. Things are about to get really ugly in Washington now that these impeachment hearings are going public. Trump seems to be more unhinged than usual. I mean claiming Schiff will edit the transcripts? Why wouldn't republicans just immediately release correct transcripts in response? They were there, after all.
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Kpdemello wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:The latter would be a bombshell, but I'll wait to see what comes of it ... too much noise these days. Maybe this explains how cock sure Pelosi is all of a sudden.
It does sound pretty far-fetched, but we'll see what shakes out. Things are about to get really ugly in Washington now that these impeachment hearings are going public. Trump seems to be more unhinged than usual. I mean claiming Schiff will edit the transcripts? do you have any idea how this works?Why wouldn't republicans just immediately release correct transcripts in response? did you read the resolution?They were there, after all.
I already addressed this above....schiff can release whatever he wants, in part, in full, not at all whatever and whenever...he can "summarize" if he wants to....he has sole authority...
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The idea that Schiff can release official transcripts that are "doctored" but Republicans would somehow get in trouble for releasing correct and complete versions is really a bit hard for me to buy into. Even if you buy into that idea though, why couldn't Republicans just leak the transcripts anonymously?
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Kpdemello wrote:The idea that Schiff can release official transcripts that are "doctored" but Republicans would somehow get in trouble for releasing correct and complete versions is really a bit hard for me to buy into. Even if you buy into that idea though, why couldn't Republicans just leak the transcripts anonymously?
they do not have access to them...jesus...R's can say whatever they want, they can refute whatever schiff releases...but the only "official" transcript is what schiff releases...read the resolution...if they leak schiff will censure them, vote to remove them from the committee and start an "obstruction" investigation...

the entire goal of this charade is to produce soundbites for the MSM to blast in order to sway public opinion...
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IF there is ever any bona fide evidence to impeach trump, they'll do it immediately...until then it's a narrative...
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Kpdemello wrote:The idea that Schiff can release official transcripts that are "doctored" but Republicans would somehow get in trouble for releasing correct and complete versions is really a bit hard for me to buy into. Even if you buy into that idea though, why couldn't Republicans just leak the transcripts anonymously?
This is where we're at that POTUS is asserting congressional testimony is retrospectively doctored ... and it's normal POTUS rhetoric that's largely ignored.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:This is where we're at that POTUS is asserting congressional testimony is retrospectively doctored ... and it's normal POTUS rhetoric that's largely ignored.
Except by his followers. They will just believe him, and even if the transcripts contain damning evidence, they'll claim the witnesses aren't credible based on "missing" or "doctored" transcripts.

This is how politics goes in the U.S.A. today. You get to pick your own facts. If you don't like what a witness is saying, you just claim they're a partisan hack and therefore nothing they say is credible. But when you find a witness who says something you like, their credibility is unimpeachable.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
Kpdemello wrote:The idea that Schiff can release official transcripts that are "doctored" but Republicans would somehow get in trouble for releasing correct and complete versions is really a bit hard for me to buy into. Even if you buy into that idea though, why couldn't Republicans just leak the transcripts anonymously?
This is where we're at that POTUS is asserting congressional testimony is retrospectively doctored ... and it's normal POTUS rhetoric that's largely ignored.
yer oblivious...did you even read the resolution? do you not comprehend that schiff can release any snippet he likes w/o any context to it whatsoever...

see flynn 302's for evidence of teh "offical" record being altered...see state dept records altered here:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/stat ... conference" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

see the 911 transcript in the trayvon case and the altered NBC "recordings" of it...

then get back to me about your ministry of truth official record BS...


you gotta do what they tell you...I most certainly do not...
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Kpdemello wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:This is where we're at that POTUS is asserting congressional testimony is retrospectively doctored ... and it's normal POTUS rhetoric that's largely ignored.
Except by his followers. They will just believe him, and even if the transcripts contain damning evidence, they'll claim the witnesses aren't credible based on "missing" or "doctored" transcripts.

This is how politics goes in the U.S.A. today. You get to pick your own facts. If you don't like what a witness is saying, you just claim they're a partisan hack and therefore nothing they say is credible. But when you find a witness who says something you like, their credibility is unimpeachable.
yep this describes the leftist tds ( barely) useful idiot class perfectly...this describes the entire russia hoax perfectly, this describes the entire kavanaugh hoax perfectly, this describes the entire ukraine impeachment fantasy perfectly , this describes whatever the next swinging dick you all latch onto perfectly as well...you've continually ignored any facts you don't like...then you get all butthurt when I call you an idiot...

ya gotta do what they tell you...
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Burisma Pressured Obama Admin Weeks Before Joe Biden Got Ukrainian Prosecutor Fired
Hunter Biden and his Ukrainian gas firm colleagues had multiple contacts with the Obama State Department during the 2016 election cycle, including one just a month before Vice President Joe Biden forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son’s company for corruption, newly released memos show.

During that February 2016 contact, a U.S. representative for Burisma Holdings sought a meeting with Undersecretary of State Catherine A. Novelli to discuss ending the corruption allegations against the Ukrainian firm where Hunter Biden worked as a board member, according to memos obtained under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. (I filed that suit this summer with the help of the public interest law firm the Southeastern Legal Foundation.)

Just three weeks before Burisma’s overture to State, Ukrainian authorities raided the home of the oligarch who owned the gas firm and employed Hunter Biden, a signal the long-running corruption probe was escalating in the middle of the U.S. presidential election.

Hunter Biden’s name, in fact, was specifically invoked by the Burisma representative as a reason the State Department should help, according to a series of email exchanges among U.S. officials trying to arrange the meeting. The subject line for the email exchanges read simply “Burisma.”

“Per our conversation, Karen Tramontano of Blue Star Strategies requested a meeting to discuss with U/S Novelli USG remarks alleging Burisma (Ukrainian energy company) of corruption,” a Feb. 24, 2016, email between State officials read. “She noted that two high profile U.S. citizens are affiliated with the company (including Hunter Biden as a board member).

“Tramontano would like to talk with U/S Novelli about getting a better understanding of how the U.S. came to the determination that the company is corrupt,” the email added. “According to Tramontano there is no evidence of corruption, has been no hearing or process, and evidence to the contrary has not been considered.”

At the time, Novelli was the most senior official overseeing international energy issues for State. The undersecretary position, of which there are several, is the third-highest-ranking job at State, behind the secretary and deputy secretary. And Tramontano was a lawyer working for Blue Star Strategies, a Washington firm that was hired by Burisma to help end a long-running corruption investigation against the gas firm in Ukraine.

Tramontano and another Blue Star official, Sally Painter, both alumni of Bill Clinton’s administration, worked with New York-based criminal defense attorney John Buretta to settle the Ukraine cases in late 2016 and 2017. I wrote about their efforts previously here.

Burisma Holdings records obtained by Ukrainian prosecutors state the gas firm made a $60,000 payment to Blue Star in November 2015.

The emails show Tramontano was scheduled to meet Novelli on March 1, 2016, and that State Department officials were scrambling to get answers ahead of time from the U.S. embassy in Kiev.

The records don’t show whether the meeting actually took place. The FOIA lawsuit is ongoing and State officials are slated to produce additional records in the months ahead.

But the records do indicate that Hunter Biden’s fellow American board member at Burisma, Devon Archer, secured a meeting on March 2, 2016 with Secretary of State John Kerry. In addition to serving on the Burisma board, Archer and Hunter Biden were partners at an American firm known as Rosemont Seneca.

“Devon Archer coming to see S today at 3pm – need someone to meet/greet him at C Street,” an email from Kerry’s office manager reads. “S” is a shorthand frequently used in State emails to describe the Secretary of State. The memos don’t state the reason for the meeting.

Tramontano, a lawyer for Hunter Biden, Archer and Joe Biden’s campaign did not return messages seeking comment on Monday.

In an interview with ABC News last month, Hunter Biden said he believed he had done “nothing wrong at all” while working with Burisma but “was it poor judgment to be in the middle of something that is…a swamp in — in — in many ways? Yeah.”

Whatever the subject of the Archer-Kerry meeting, its existence is certain to spark interest. That’s because Secretary Kerry’s stepson, Christopher Heinz, had been a business partner with both Archer and Hunter Biden at the Rosemont Seneca investment firm in the United States.

Heinz, however, chose not to participate in the Burisma dealings. In fact, he wrote an email to his stepfather’s top aides in May 2014, pointedly distancing himself from the decision by Hunter Biden and Devon Archer to join Burisma’s board.

Heinz’s spokesman recently told The Washington Post that Heinz ended his relationship with Archer and Hunter Biden partly over the Burisma matter. “The lack of judgment in this matter was a major catalyst for Mr. Heinz ending his business relationships with Mr. Archer and Mr. Biden,” Heinz spokesman Chris Bastardi told the newspaper

A person who assisted Blue Star and Buretta in settling the Burisma matters in Ukraine told me in an interview that the late February 2016 overture to State was prompted by a dramatic series of events in Ukraine that included when that country’s top prosecutor escalated a two-year probe into Burisma and its founder, the oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky.

Zlochevsky’s gas firm hired Hunter Biden and Archer as board members for Burisma Holdings in spring 2014, around the time that British officials opened corruption investigations into Zlochevsky’s gas firm for actions dating to 2010 before Hunter Biden and Archer joined the firm. Ukraine officials opened their own corruption probe in August 2014.

A firm called Rosemont Seneca Bohai began receiving monthly payments totaling more than $166,000 from Burisma Holdings in May 2014, bank records show. The records show Devon Archer was listed as a custodian for the Rosemont Seneca Bohai firm and that Hunter Biden received payments from it. You can read those bank records here.

In September 2015, then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt gave a speech imploring Ukrainian prosecutors to do more to bring Zlochevsky to justice, according to published reports at the time.

By early 2016 the Ukrainian investigation had advanced enough that then-Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin authorized a court-ordered seizure of Zlochevsky’s home and other valuables, including a luxury car. That seizure occurred on Feb. 2, 2016, according to published reports in Ukraine.

The same day that the Zlochevsky seizure was announced in Ukraine, Hunter Biden used his Twitter account to start following Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, a longtime national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden who was promoted to the No. 2 job at State under Secretary John Kerry.

The Feb. 4, 2016 Twitter notification from Hunter Biden to Blinken was captured by State email servers and turned over to me as part of the FOIA release.

Within a few weeks of Tramontano’s overture to Novelli and of Archer’s overture to Kerry, Vice President Joe Biden took a stunning action, one that has enveloped his 2020 campaign for president in controversy.

By his own admission in a 2018 speech, Joe Biden used the threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. aid to strong-arm Ukraine into firing Shokin, a prosecutor that he and his office knew was investigating Burisma.

Biden has said he forced Shokin’s firing because he and Western allies believed the prosecutor wasn’t aggressive enough in fighting corruption.

Shokin disputes that account, telling both me and ABC News that he was fired specifically because he would not stand down from investigating Burisma. In fact, Shokin alleges, he was making plans to interview Hunter Biden about his Burisma work and payments when he got the axe.

Ukraine prosecutors have said they do not believe the Bidens did anything wrong under Ukraine law. But some of the country’s prosecutors made an effort in 2018 to get information about Burisma to the U.S. Justice Department because they believed American prosecutors might be interested in some activities under U.S. law. You can read about that effort here.

Some experts and officials have been quoted in reports saying Joe Biden’s actions created the appearance of a conflict of interest, something all U.S. government officials are supposed to avoid. The questions about conflicts were previously raised in a 2015 article by the New York Times and the 2018 book Secret Empires by author Peter Schweizer.

The new evidence of contacts between Burisma, Hunter Biden and Archer at State are certain to add a new layer of intrigue to the debate. Those contacts span back to at least spring 2015, the new memos show.

On May 22, 2015, Hunter Biden emailed his father’s longtime trusted aide, Blinken, with the following message: “Have a few minutes next week to grab a cup of coffee? I know you are impossibly busy, but would like to get your advice on a couple of things, Best, Hunter.”

Blinken responded the same day with an “absolutely” and added, “Look forward to seeing you.”

The records indicate the two men were scheduled to meet the afternoon of May 27, 2015.

The State Department records also indicate Hunter Biden met Blinken in person for lunch on July 22, 2015, when State officials gave the name of a person to meet to help him enter the building. “He has the VIP pin and can escort you upstairs for your lunch with Tony,” the email said.

The emails don’t indicate whether the meeting had to do with Burisma or one of Hunter Biden’s other interests.

But they clearly show that Hunter Biden, his business partner and Burisma’s legal team were able to secure contacts inside the State Department, including to one of his father’s most trusted aides, to Secretary Kerry and to the agency’s top energy official.

The question now is: Did any of those contacts prompt further action or have anything to do with Joe Biden’s conduct in Ukraine in March 2016 when he forced Shokin’s firing?

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Another FOIA'd email shows that Hunter Biden's business partner and fellow Burisma board member Devon Archer was set to meet with Secretary of State John Kerry on March 2, 2016, a week after the email mentioning Hunter.

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Email shows Hunter Biden started following Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, a longtime national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden, just as Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin announced a raid on the home of Burisma's founder

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Joe Biden on Hunter: "I Didn't Know He Was On The Board Of That Company"
On Date November 2, 2019

really? the rest of the world did....

Joe Biden, His Son and the Case Against a Ukrainian Oligarch
Dec. 8, 2015

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/worl ... -ties.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

of course biden is lying....only the ( barely) useful idiot class isn't aware of this...willful ignorance in action as always...ya gotta do what they tell you...
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