ioooooo yuck...

Post by **SkiDork** » Jun 16th, '05, 06:39

One thing you never think of about mountain climbing...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/DESTINAT ... index.html

pizzamoose · Post by **pizzamoose** » Jun 16th, '05, 06:45

That is actually a serious problem. They want you to throw your crap into a crevasse, but even now, people don't.

The thing about a big mountain like Denali is two: Your motivation and judgement diminishes as you go higher, and in the extreme weather, even walking a couple hundred yards to a crevasse is a big deal. Think about it. People don't even want to melt ice long enough to bring it to a boil, to prevent diaharrea.

andyzee · Post by **andyzee** » Jun 16th, '05, 06:46

Interesting, I looked at the following line, "The study recommends a campaign to better educate climbers about hygiene and to impose stiffer penalties for breaches" and had to wonder. How will they inforce this, have cops stand at the top of each mountain.

pizzamoose · Post by **pizzamoose** » Jun 16th, '05, 06:48

andyzee wrote:Interesting, I looked at the following line, "The study recommends a campaign to better educate climbers about hygiene and to impose stiffer penalties for breaches" and had to wonder. How will they inforce this, have cops stand at the top of each mountain.

Believe me, climbers are aware of the situation and know exactly how to prevent it. It is virtually impossible to enforce, because on Denali you don't have rangers patrolling the mountain, especially during a storm when most of this sh*t (no pun intended) goes on.

Vinny Vincenzo · Post by **Vinny Vincenzo** » Jun 16th, '05, 07:36

I thought sh*t rolled downhill?

yeti · Post by **yeti** » Jun 16th, '05, 07:41

I have had rangers verify to see if I was packing out my crap.

Generally, I carry a few token logs, and burn the rest before I break camp.

Post by **SkiDork** » Jun 16th, '05, 08:02

yeti wrote:I have had rangers verify to see if I was packing out my crap.

Generally, I carry a few token logs, and burn the rest before I break camp.

that must smell sweet...

pizzamoose · Post by **pizzamoose** » Jun 16th, '05, 08:06

yeti wrote:I have had rangers verify to see if I was packing out my crap.

Generally, I carry a few token logs, and burn the rest before I break camp.

I think Rainier is like that, but on Denali you're supposed to throw your sh*t into crevasses. You don't have to pack it out.

andyzee · Post by **andyzee** » Jun 16th, '05, 08:20

My humble opinion, this is one shitty thread

BigKahuna13 · Post by **BigKahuna13** » Jun 16th, '05, 08:21

Didn't read the article, but wtf is the big deal? sh*t's organic. It breaks down eventually doesn't it? I mean the animals don't pack out their sh*t do they?

pizzamoose · Post by **pizzamoose** » Jun 16th, '05, 08:24

BigKahuna13 wrote:Didn't read the article, but wtf is the big deal? sh*t's organic. It breaks down eventually doesn't it? I mean the animals don't pack out their sh*t do they?

The only animals on Denali are some ravens at lower elevations. Occassionally a bear will wander on the ice but he doesn't stay long. The problem is the disease it causes. People throw their sh*t onto the ice. Later, some poor soul melts contaminated ice for drinking water. He then gets diaharrea, which as you can imagine makes the situation even worse.