NPR - what we knew all along is true

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I assume you didn't actually read the original article Uri Berliner wrote and just relied on Fox's half-ass summation? He's not actually saying they were liberal all along. In fact, he says they took a sharp turn when Trump was elected, but before that they were quite reliable. That said, it's a valid criticism. I think NPR along with many other left-leaning news organizations went a little nutty when Trump was elected and often did not treat him fairly.
For decades, since its founding in 1970, a wide swath of America tuned in to NPR for reliable journalism and gorgeous audio pieces with birds singing in the Amazon. Millions came to us for conversations that exposed us to voices around the country and the world radically different from our own—engaging precisely because they were unguarded and unpredictable. No image generated more pride within NPR than the farmer listening to Morning Edition from his or her tractor at sunrise.

Back in 2011, although NPR’s audience tilted a bit to the left, it still bore a resemblance to America at large. Twenty-six percent of listeners described themselves as conservative, 23 percent as middle of the road, and 37 percent as liberal.

By 2023, the picture was completely different: only 11 percent described themselves as very or somewhat conservative, 21 percent as middle of the road, and 67 percent of listeners said they were very or somewhat liberal. We weren’t just losing conservatives; we were also losing moderates and traditional liberals.

An open-minded spirit no longer exists within NPR, and now, predictably, we don’t have an audience that reflects America.

That wouldn’t be a problem for an openly polemical news outlet serving a niche audience. But for NPR, which purports to consider all things, it’s devastating both for its journalism and its business model.

Like many unfortunate things, the rise of advocacy took off with Donald Trump. As in many newsrooms, his election in 2016 was greeted at NPR with a mixture of disbelief, anger, and despair. (Just to note, I eagerly voted against Trump twice but felt we were obliged to cover him fairly.) But what began as tough, straightforward coverage of a belligerent, truth-impaired president veered toward efforts to damage or topple Trump’s presidency.

Persistent rumors that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia over the election became the catnip that drove reporting. At NPR, we hitched our wagon to Trump’s most visible antagonist, Representative Adam Schiff.
https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how- ... icas-trust

Also - I'm not aware that NPR has ever been found liable for defamation, much less had to pay out the largest ever defamation settlement in history the way Fox news just did. NPR's problem is they try to tell you what to think and selectively cover stories that favor their point of view. Fox does those two things just as much if not more, but the bigger problem with Fox is they push outright misinformation.
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Re: NPR - what we knew all along is true

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easyrider16 wrote: Apr 9th, '24, 19:28 I assume you didn't actually read the original article Uri Berliner wrote and just relied on Fox's half-ass summation? He's not actually saying they were liberal all along. In fact, he says they took a sharp turn when Trump was elected, but before that they were quite reliable. That said, it's a valid criticism. I think NPR along with many other left-leaning news organizations went a little nutty when Trump was elected and often did not treat him fairly.
For decades, since its founding in 1970, a wide swath of America tuned in to NPR for reliable journalism and gorgeous audio pieces with birds singing in the Amazon. Millions came to us for conversations that exposed us to voices around the country and the world radically different from our own—engaging precisely because they were unguarded and unpredictable. No image generated more pride within NPR than the farmer listening to Morning Edition from his or her tractor at sunrise.

Back in 2011, although NPR’s audience tilted a bit to the left, it still bore a resemblance to America at large. Twenty-six percent of listeners described themselves as conservative, 23 percent as middle of the road, and 37 percent as liberal.

By 2023, the picture was completely different: only 11 percent described themselves as very or somewhat conservative, 21 percent as middle of the road, and 67 percent of listeners said they were very or somewhat liberal. We weren’t just losing conservatives; we were also losing moderates and traditional liberals.

An open-minded spirit no longer exists within NPR, and now, predictably, we don’t have an audience that reflects America.

That wouldn’t be a problem for an openly polemical news outlet serving a niche audience. But for NPR, which purports to consider all things, it’s devastating both for its journalism and its business model.

Like many unfortunate things, the rise of advocacy took off with Donald Trump. As in many newsrooms, his election in 2016 was greeted at NPR with a mixture of disbelief, anger, and despair. (Just to note, I eagerly voted against Trump twice but felt we were obliged to cover him fairly.) But what began as tough, straightforward coverage of a belligerent, truth-impaired president veered toward efforts to damage or topple Trump’s presidency.

Persistent rumors that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia over the election became the catnip that drove reporting. At NPR, we hitched our wagon to Trump’s most visible antagonist, Representative Adam Schiff.
https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how- ... icas-trust

Also - I'm not aware that NPR has ever been found liable for defamation, much less had to pay out the largest ever defamation settlement in history the way Fox news just did. NPR's problem is they try to tell you what to think and selectively cover stories that favor their point of view. Fox does those two things just as much if not more, but the bigger problem with Fox is they push outright misinformation.
“ I assume”. “I’m not aware”. Pretty much sums up your blathering…..
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More whataboutisms from ER.

NPR has been left wing biased for decades. Here is Juan Williams take:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/imprisone ... money-case
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Skid Mark wrote: Apr 10th, '24, 12:06 More whataboutisms from ER.

NPR has been left wing biased for decades. Here is Juan Williams take:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/imprisone ... money-case
I'll ask again, why the new handle Throbster. I see this all the time from MAGAs online. Imaginary friends to make your whacked out view points seem more popular than they are?
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Juan Williams? Of Fox News? Why are we still citing to the organization that just paid out the biggest defamation settlement in history?
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People with a higher IQ and favorable genes for intelligence are more likely to be liberal...

https://www.zmescience.com/science/news ... -politics/
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I agree that they used to do a good job. They even pointed out the Obama was born in Kenya back in 2008 before that became unpopular. At this point they are detrimental to the efforts that they claim to support.

"Moral highground by millimeters" is license for full sh*t journalism in modern America, amongst even reasonable people. That's just the way the brain works IMHO. If someone is on your team, it's just not the same mentality.
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Well it's true that Obama was born in Kenya, but that Obama is the ex presidents father.
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NPR said Obama was born in Kenya? :lol:

Oh wait, they did!
NPR wrote:She also describes the stories that have been exciting, including the U.S. presidential race of Kenyan-born Sen. Barack Obama.
https://web.archive.org/web/20091020224 ... d=95550177

That's kind of funny. Obviously a typo but great fodder for conspiracy theorists.
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