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Southside_Bobby
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Re: Superstar chair

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Stormchaser wrote: May 8th, '24, 10:40 Change the alignment, offset the top station from the existing station, leave the existing chair operational until the new one is ready, and then tear the old one out later...
The new top station may need to be pretty much where the current one is. They aren't going to put it on Nivis.
2014 - "A South Ridge trail is Pipe Dream. A South Ridge lift shouldn't be."
2019 - "A South Ridge trail is Pipe Dream. A South Ridge lift (operating midweek) shouldn't be."
2023 - Killington announces that the South Ridge lift will run five days a week.
Spring 2024 - Killington lied.
Fall 2024 - Killington Independence is declared, along with Wednesday to Sunday on the SRQ.
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Re: Superstar chair

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Southside_Bobby wrote: May 8th, '24, 10:55
Stormchaser wrote: May 8th, '24, 10:40 Change the alignment, offset the top station from the existing station, leave the existing chair operational until the new one is ready, and then tear the old one out later...
The new top station may need to be pretty much where the current one is. They aren't going to put it on Nivis.
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Re: Superstar chair

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One word: wind.

There is a reason that top terminal is tucked in just after the breakover. That is the area that always was the culprit for closing Stage 3 of the original gondola.
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Re: Superstar chair

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newpylong1 wrote: May 8th, '24, 11:23 One word: wind.

There is a reason that top terminal is tucked in just after the breakover. That is the area that always was the culprit for closing Stage 3 of the original gondola.
yup. i'm sure they'll do all the surveys and engineering necessary to put the lift in the absolute optimized location. given that the machine is gonna cost $8-10 mil and will be here for what 35-40 yrs, they're gonna do everything they can to get it right. doubt losing a month of spring skiing is entering into their equation. oh yeah let's put it over there so we don't lose a month of spring skiing the year of the install.
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Superstar chair

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So, which do we find to be more reliable - the 30+ year old Supe chair, or the 18 month old escalator in the new lodge?
2014 - "A South Ridge trail is Pipe Dream. A South Ridge lift shouldn't be."
2019 - "A South Ridge trail is Pipe Dream. A South Ridge lift (operating midweek) shouldn't be."
2023 - Killington announces that the South Ridge lift will run five days a week.
Spring 2024 - Killington lied.
Fall 2024 - Killington Independence is declared, along with Wednesday to Sunday on the SRQ.
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Re: Superstar chair

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Southside_Bobby wrote: May 8th, '24, 14:19 So, which do we find to be more reliable - the 30+ year old Supe chair, or the 18 month old escalator in the new lodge?
Is that escalator still breaking down all the time? I never go thru the front door of kbl.
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Re: Superstar chair

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daytripper wrote: May 8th, '24, 15:06
Southside_Bobby wrote: May 8th, '24, 14:19 So, which do we find to be more reliable - the 30+ year old Supe chair, or the 18 month old escalator in the new lodge?
Is that escalator still breaking down all the time? I never go thru the front door of kbl.
All the time.
2014 - "A South Ridge trail is Pipe Dream. A South Ridge lift shouldn't be."
2019 - "A South Ridge trail is Pipe Dream. A South Ridge lift (operating midweek) shouldn't be."
2023 - Killington announces that the South Ridge lift will run five days a week.
Spring 2024 - Killington lied.
Fall 2024 - Killington Independence is declared, along with Wednesday to Sunday on the SRQ.
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Re: Superstar chair

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Yes it was not running last Sunday .
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Re: Superstar chair

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skiadikt wrote: May 8th, '24, 13:56
newpylong1 wrote: May 8th, '24, 11:23 One word: wind.

There is a reason that top terminal is tucked in just after the breakover. That is the area that always was the culprit for closing Stage 3 of the original gondola.
yup. i'm sure they'll do all the surveys and engineering necessary to put the lift in the absolute optimized location. given that the machine is gonna cost $8-10 mil and will be here for what 35-40 yrs, they're gonna do everything they can to get it right. doubt losing a month of spring skiing is entering into their equation. oh yeah let's put it over there so we don't lose a month of spring skiing the year of the install.
Try $12-15m
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Re: Superstar chair

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Not likely to exceed $10M. SS is not an overly long lift or challenging install.

Check install costs for similar lifts over the past few years, and many had COVID labor and material inflation.
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Re: Superstar chair

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newpylong1 wrote: May 9th, '24, 06:07 Not likely to exceed $10M. SS is not an overly long lift or challenging install.

Check install costs for similar lifts over the past few years, and many had COVID labor and material inflation.
Camelback PA. D Line 6 bubble. Half the length and vert. $14m in 2022

Brightons D Line 6 last summer was $11/12 I believe.
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Re: Superstar chair

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Stowe's Sunrise 6 pack cost $6M according to this:

https://www.newenglandskihistory.com/li ... hp?id=1015

Maybe that is the cost without labor?
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Re: Superstar chair

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Not a D line, and neither will Superstar be most likely.

That would include labor. No ski area has the in house expertise to install their own detach.
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Re: Superstar chair

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newpylong1 wrote: May 9th, '24, 08:49 No ski area has the in house expertise to install their own detach.
Pretty sure Holiday Valley in NY i installing their own Detach this year with in house staff. It was a 2 year install.
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Re: Superstar chair

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You're right. It's not their first either from my recollection. I should have said not many.
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