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madhatter wrote:been a while since we talked about this:

According to Dr. Steven Shapiro and the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center:

Crowded indoor conditions can be devastating in nursing homes, while on the USS Theodore Roosevelt 1,102 sailors were infected, but only 7 required hospitalization, with 1 death. This contrast has significant implications that we have not embraced. Epidemiologic prediction models have performed poorly, often neglecting critical variables.

The USS Theodore Roosevelt had a crew of 4,800. Given the acute sample, testing was holistic. This yields an actual infection rate of roughly 23 percent, and among those infected, the fatality rate is 0.09 percent. Among the Roosevelt’s entire crew of assumedly healthy and able-bodied sailors, on a floating Petri dish, during the thick of viral outbreak that shut down all schools and placed healthy citizens across America under house-arrest, the fatality rate was .002 percent.

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:

madhatter wrote:been a while since we talked about this:

According to Dr. Steven Shapiro and the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center:

Crowded indoor conditions can be devastating in nursing homes, while on the USS Theodore Roosevelt 1,102 sailors were infected, but only 7 required hospitalization, with 1 death. This contrast has significant implications that we have not embraced. Epidemiologic prediction models have performed poorly, often neglecting critical variables.

The USS Theodore Roosevelt had a crew of 4,800. Given the acute sample, testing was holistic. This yields an actual infection rate of roughly 23 percent, and among those infected, the fatality rate is 0.09 percent. Among the Roosevelt’s entire crew of assumedly healthy and able-bodied sailors, on a floating Petri dish, during the thick of viral outbreak that shut down all schools and placed healthy citizens across America under house-arrest, the fatality rate was .002 percent.

Shapiro is right, but the author (Tyler Durden) Authored by William Sullivan via AmericanThinker.com,takes liberties alluding that the USS Roosevelt is a representative sample of the United States (this is called Sampling Bias). pretty sure some here said this was a definitive test as EVERYONE was tested and everyone was exposed...The fatality rate of the greater US population is generally cited as ~1.25%.though of course there's no definitive data to back that up...

Now back to your regularly schedule conspiracy theory that the orange man is bad...

As Dr. Shapiro also observes:

Our outcomes are similar to the state of Pennsylvania, where the median age of death from COVID-19 is 84 years old. The few younger patients who died all had significant preexisting conditions. Very few children were infected and none died. Minorities in our communities fared equally well as others, but we know that this is not the case nationally. In sum, this is a disease of the elderly, sick, and poor.

madhatter wrote:

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:

madhatter wrote:been a while since we talked about this:

According to Dr. Steven Shapiro and the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center:

Crowded indoor conditions can be devastating in nursing homes, while on the USS Theodore Roosevelt 1,102 sailors were infected, but only 7 required hospitalization, with 1 death. This contrast has significant implications that we have not embraced. Epidemiologic prediction models have performed poorly, often neglecting critical variables.

The USS Theodore Roosevelt had a crew of 4,800. Given the acute sample, testing was holistic. This yields an actual infection rate of roughly 23 percent, and among those infected, the fatality rate is 0.09 percent. Among the Roosevelt’s entire crew of assumedly healthy and able-bodied sailors, on a floating Petri dish, during the thick of viral outbreak that shut down all schools and placed healthy citizens across America under house-arrest, the fatality rate was .002 percent.

Shapiro is right, but the author (Tyler Durden) Authored by William Sullivan via AmericanThinker.com,takes liberties alluding that the USS Roosevelt is a representative sample of the United States (this is called Sampling Bias). pretty sure some here said this was a definitive test as EVERYONE was tested and everyone was exposed...The fatality rate of the greater US population is generally cited as ~1.25%.though of course there's no definitive data to back that up...

Now back to your regularly schedule conspiracy theory that the orange man is bad...

Authored by William Sullivan via AmericanThinker.com,

As Dr. Shapiro also observes:

Our outcomes are similar to the state of Pennsylvania, where the median age of death from COVID-19 is 84 years old. The few younger patients who died all had significant preexisting conditions. Very few children were infected and none died. Minorities in our communities fared equally well as others, but we know that this is not the case nationally. In sum, this is a disease of the elderly, sick, and poor.

the stupid just flows out of you like spring melt flows out of the mtns...it seems to be the one constant about you...

or maybe you just can't read very well?

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:

madhatter wrote:

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:

madhatter wrote:been a while since we talked about this:

According to Dr. Steven Shapiro and the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center:

Crowded indoor conditions can be devastating in nursing homes, while on the USS Theodore Roosevelt 1,102 sailors were infected, but only 7 required hospitalization, with 1 death. This contrast has significant implications that we have not embraced. Epidemiologic prediction models have performed poorly, often neglecting critical variables.

The USS Theodore Roosevelt had a crew of 4,800. Given the acute sample, testing was holistic. This yields an actual infection rate of roughly 23 percent, and among those infected, the fatality rate is 0.09 percent. Among the Roosevelt’s entire crew of assumedly healthy and able-bodied sailors, on a floating Petri dish, during the thick of viral outbreak that shut down all schools and placed healthy citizens across America under house-arrest, the fatality rate was .002 percent.

Shapiro is right, but the author (Tyler Durden) Authored by William Sullivan via AmericanThinker.com,takes liberties alluding that the USS Roosevelt is a representative sample of the United States (this is called Sampling Bias). pretty sure some here said this was a definitive test as EVERYONE was tested and everyone was exposed...The fatality rate of the greater US population is generally cited as ~1.25%.though of course there's no definitive data to back that up...

Now back to your regularly schedule conspiracy theory that the orange man is bad...

Authored by William Sullivan via AmericanThinker.com,

As Dr. Shapiro also observes:

Our outcomes are similar to the state of Pennsylvania, where the median age of death from COVID-19 is 84 years old. The few younger patients who died all had significant preexisting conditions. Very few children were infected and none died. Minorities in our communities fared equally well as others, but we know that this is not the case nationally. In sum, this is a disease of the elderly, sick, and poor.

the stupid just flows out of you like spring melt flows out of the mtns...it seems to be the one constant about you...

or maybe you just can't read very well?

Thank you for quoting Dr. Shapiro on outcomes, which underscores the Sampling Bias in Sullivan's assertion that the USS Roosevelt is representative of the US population fatality rate.

COVID is not the flu.

a disease of the elderly, sick, and poor.

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Time to move this thread to the Political Forum as it's now devolved into conspiracy theory nonsense.

jimmywilson69 wrote:I know you don't really believe that...

jimmywilson69 wrote:I guess I have a naive approach that politics isn't playing a part in the lockdowns.

unfortunately both sides of the aisle have politicized this. Imagine if this approach happened in the 40s. We'd be having this conversation in German and on the west coast in Japanese.

Its really annoying that our "leaders" can't and won't work together for the common good. Everyone is pushing an agenda all of the time.

I also agree that lockdown needs to be easing in lots of places. in PA it is in the rural areas and starting tomorrow the western part of the state that had less cases. Is the Governors metric reasonable, overly cautious, politically motivated, I don't know...