NSR: Corona Virus - You Can Start Panicking Now

[hillbangin]

The population density in NYC is a lot greater than any of the cities in Florida. That's what caused the amount of cases NYC had and most of the NY State cases are from the NYC area. I just talked with my cousin who lives in Florida and he said that after they opened the beaches, they had to reclose them because the Covid19 cases were going back up. I am proud of Cuomo who is being very careful about reopening especially downstate.

He's the reason you didn't get your 100 days in.

[twilkas]

The one thing you should keep in mind with photos like that one, is depending on the angle and type of lens the photographer used for the photo, it can make it appear like people who may from the side view are properly social distancing, are actually right on top of one another. If you look at the feet of those towards the foreground in the picture, it appears like there is a decent amount of distance between those in the line, whereas from that angle their torsos look like their closer than 6 feet

100% right on. stop the brutal internet judgement hysteria based on a picture you're unable to parse ty.
aka STBIJHBONAPYUTP

[madhatter]

New York Admits Purposely Undercounting Nursing Home Deaths


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Domestic Violence Calls Mount

[madhatter]

Over 86,500 people have reportedly died in the United States from the Coronavirus, and the fear generated by those deaths is driving the public policy debate. But that number is a dramatic overcount. Our metrics include deaths that have nothing to do with the virus. The problem is even worse as the Centers for Disease Control over counts even some of these cases and the government has created financial incentives for this misreporting. Relying on these flawed numbers is destroying businesses and jobs and costing lives.

“The case definition is very simplistic,” Dr. Ngozi Ezike, director of Illinois Department of Public Health, explains.

“It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”

Medical examiners in Michigan use the same definition. In Macomb and Oakland Counties, where most of the deaths occurred, medical examiners classify any deaths as Coronavirus deaths when the postmortem test is positive. Even people who died in suicides and automobile accidents meet that definition.

Still, these broad definitions are not due to a few rogue public health officials. The rules direct them to do this.

[Mister Moose]

“It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”

We need a number of cases that had clear alternative causes. Otherwise this turns into the same go nowhere argument as say, voter fraud.

[madhatter]

“It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”

We need a number of cases that had clear alternative causes. Otherwise this turns into the same go nowhere argument as say, voter fraud.

yeah cuz there's also accurate alternative record keeping, just like there's a record of fraudulent votes...

taking part of my quote instead of all of it removes context...

“The case definition is very simplistic,” Dr. Ngozi Ezike, director of Illinois Department of Public Health, explains.

“It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”

Medical examiners in Michigan use the same definition. In Macomb and Oakland Counties, where most of the deaths occurred, medical examiners classify any deaths as Coronavirus deaths when the postmortem test is positive. Even people who died in suicides and automobile accidents meet that definition.

Still, these broad definitions are not due to a few rogue public health officials. The rules direct them to do this.

anyone who presents symptoms or test positive and dies is counted as a COVID death...

NY admits over counting, other places have too...

why hasn't the entire homeless population dropped dead in the streets?

the death rate is a fraction of a percent even with any alleged over counting...they certainly aren't under counting...

time to end the stupidity...

[XtremeJibber2001]

“It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”

We need a number of cases that had clear alternative causes. Otherwise this turns into the same go nowhere argument as say, voter fraud.

Fauci, as recently as last week, said the following:

Most of us feel that the number of deaths are likely higher than [current count of 80,000+]. There may be people [in NYC] who died at home who did have COVID-19 who were not counted because they never really got to the hospital. I don't know exactly what percent higher."

Now back to more conspiracy theory posts.

[madhatter]

“It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”

We need a number of cases that had clear alternative causes. Otherwise this turns into the same go nowhere argument as say, voter fraud.

Fauci, as recently as last week, said the following:

Most of us feel that the number of deaths are likely higher than [current count of 80,000+]. There may be people [in NYC] who died at home who did have COVID-19 who were not counted because they never really got to the hospital. I don't know exactly what percent higher."

Now back to more conspiracy theory posts.

ya gotta do what they tell you...you don't even bother thinking for yourself...

there's a BIG difference between dying FROM covid and dying WITH covid...

even the most wildly exaggerated death toll puts the rate at under 1% of US population...BFD....

you compile that data on georgia for us yet @sshole? no of course not cuz it doesn't fit yer narrative, so it doesn't exist...yer own fvcking state admits over counting and removes people from the list but you ignore that too...

just GFYS you ignorant fvcking moron... with a mask on for safety...so sick and tired of you gobbling the MSM knob and imagining yourself as even remotely informed as you puke it back up here...yer fvcking OBLIVIOUS to reality...it simply has no place in your life...


your ignorance and stupidity almost makes me pine for someone with the integrity of KPdemello to post....

[XtremeJibber2001]

even the most wildly exaggerated death toll puts the rate at under 1% of US population...BFD....

This is the difference between you and I ... you can say big fcking deal to ~3.8 million dead (~1% of US population) ... I cannot.

[madhatter]

even the most wildly exaggerated death toll puts the rate at under 1% of US population...BFD....

This is the difference between you and I ... you can say big fcking deal to ~3.8 million dead (~1% of US population) ... I cannot.

who is reporting 3.8 million dead???

WORLDWIDE total is about 1/10th of that...

the total number of US yearly deaths from ANY cause is @2.8 million...

the difference between you and I is that you gotta do what they tell you, and I most certainly do not...

again try THINKING for yourself...until then just STFU w yer ignorant BS...it's gotten beyond tiresome...

[madhatter]

[KingsFourMan]

The population density in NYC is a lot greater than any of the cities in Florida. That's what caused the amount of cases NYC had and most of the NY State cases are from the NYC area. I just talked with my cousin who lives in Florida and he said that after they opened the beaches, they had to reclose them because the Covid19 cases were going back up. I am proud of Cuomo who is being very careful about reopening especially downstate.

The Cuomos job killing taxes and excessive government regulations have helped turn NY State (outside of the metro NYC area) into appalachia if not a 3rd world country. I travelled extensively around Upstate NY for work a few years ago and was blown away by how dismal, depressed and run down it all is. It's shocking, I don't think most people realize how depressed that region of the country is and it's a huge area that includes some decent sized cities. It's been in steep decline for decades and is consistently one of the leading outmigration states in the country. Someone up there once said to me "Liberalism is a disease and NY is terminal."

[madhatter]

The population density in NYC is a lot greater than any of the cities in Florida. That's what caused the amount of cases NYC had and most of the NY State cases are from the NYC area. I just talked with my cousin who lives in Florida and he said that after they opened the beaches, they had to reclose them because the Covid19 cases were going back up. I am proud of Cuomo who is being very careful about reopening especially downstate.

The Cuomos job killing taxes and excessive government regulations have helped turn NY State (outside of the metro NYC area) into appalachia if not a 3rd world country. I travelled extensively around Upstate NY for work a few years ago and was blown away by how dismal, depressed and run down it all is. It's shocking, I don't think most people realize how depressed that region of the country is and it's a huge area that includes some decent sized cities. It's been in steep decline for decades and is consistently one of the leading outmigration states in the country. Someone up there once said to me "Liberalism is a disease and NY is terminal."

I dunno that it's cuomo's fault ( or not) but I agree on the depressed economy in upstate...many years back we went camping in the finger lakes area...many many desolate miles of "used to be"...

[SkiDork]

The taxes and cost of living in Nassau County are astonishingly high. Outmigration is a thing here too.

[madhatter]

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