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newpylong wrote:Goddam, 150 more?

The way that Mount Snow is headed, by the time they get The West Lake project done and their water supply basically doubles and then they take the mountain to 100% snowmaking, they may very well be talking 500 or so fan guns!

Heck, just the savings alone on the 200,000 odd gallons of Diesel that the old rental compressors consumed will start to save some $$ even with the larger electric bill. Plus, not only are they quiet, but they have a heck of a conversion rate of water to snow, much higher than from an air/water gun.

DrJeff wrote:

newpylong wrote:Goddam, 150 more?

The way that Mount Snow is headed, by the time they get The West Lake project done and their water supply basically doubles and then they take the mountain to 100% snowmaking, they may very well be talking 500 or so fan guns!

Heck, just the savings alone on the 200,000 odd gallons of Diesel that the old rental compressors consumed will start to save some $$ even with the larger electric bill. Plus, not only are they quiet, but they have a heck of a conversion rate of water to snow, much higher than from an air/water gun.

Are you skiing Mt Snow this weekend? I suspect a bunch of Killington people would be interested in an end-of-Saturday report.

JerseyGuy wrote:

skiingsnow wrote:

JerseyGuy wrote:I love this...

Nearby Competent Resort Owner wrote:In addition to the snowmaking expansion, this year’s $1.4 million maintenance capital program includes improvements across the resort such as painting lifts, improving the locker room, and golf course improvements, confirming Peak Resorts’ commitment to maintaining Mount Snow on an annual basis.

Simple way to cut through the Killington-style BS of claiming all maintenance as no-distinctions-made "capital": call it "maintenance capital" and trumpet it as a separate line item showing how dedicated you are to maintaining the resort.

Why do all the smart people work for Mount Snow and Okemo? Why can't Killington seem to get their hands on any of them? Oh, yeah... they'd probably want benefits, hours, knowledge that their jobs will still exist in a year...

Killington said $3.3 M in Capital and $2 M At the Grand, by the Grand people.

And in addition to the above there was around $2 M in Maintenence, which was not brought up in any of the press releases, that came out here on Kzone from I believe Tom.

So. . . .

So... what? As long as they release information piecemeal in twelve different places, in dribs and drabs over weeks and months, they're good?

My beef here is with the poor communication, not the numbers per se.

" cut through the Killington-style BS of claiming all maintenance as no-distinctions-made "capital" "

Killington didn't claim a dollar of its maintenance as capital. Not one.

The only reason we know about it is because of this site.



Killington communicated long ago the biggest part of its summer plan, on its site, in the drift, and in the local news papers.

Nothing on Mount Snows website yet on their plans for the summer, nothing I can find anyway. . .

skiingsnow wrote: Killington didn't claim a dollar of its maintenance as capital. Not one.

The only reason we know about it is because of this site.

That's a load of crap. Last year, they even claimed routine maintenance to the Grand Summit as part of their great spending on "improvements". That's complete sh*t since the quartershare owners fund that complex and pay Killington, the owner of the common areas, a huge pile of money for the use every year. Routine repairs like fixing the snowmaking system are essential to keeping the resort going and were the correct place to spend money last summer after the ASC malaise years where they did nothing to the mountain. Some plain speaking last year would have been better than the transparent B.S. spin they put on it.

As I've been saying... other than the early closing which, in my mind, is unforgivable, I'm pretty happy with how they ran things this year. There were a few times their austerity budget was a little annoying with slow de-icing and lifts closed when they should have been open but the place was just fine on midwinter weekends. Their communication is horrible. They acted like a bull in a china shop for the last year. Their marketing, the feeble amount they did, was awful. If Chris Nyberg can't communicate with the public, they need to hire somebody who can.

Geoff wrote:

DrJeff wrote:

newpylong wrote:Goddam, 150 more?

The way that Mount Snow is headed, by the time they get The West Lake project done and their water supply basically doubles and then they take the mountain to 100% snowmaking, they may very well be talking 500 or so fan guns!

Heck, just the savings alone on the 200,000 odd gallons of Diesel that the old rental compressors consumed will start to save some $$ even with the larger electric bill. Plus, not only are they quiet, but they have a heck of a conversion rate of water to snow, much higher than from an air/water gun.

Are you skiing Mt Snow this weekend? I suspect a bunch of Killington people would be interested in an end-of-Saturday report.

I'll be on snow there and will post a report. Although since I will have my 4 year old daughter skiing with me all day, I can't guarentee that I'll be sampling all the open trails

DrJeff wrote:

Geoff wrote:

DrJeff wrote:

newpylong wrote:Goddam, 150 more?

The way that Mount Snow is headed, by the time they get The West Lake project done and their water supply basically doubles and then they take the mountain to 100% snowmaking, they may very well be talking 500 or so fan guns!

Heck, just the savings alone on the 200,000 odd gallons of Diesel that the old rental compressors consumed will start to save some $$ even with the larger electric bill. Plus, not only are they quiet, but they have a heck of a conversion rate of water to snow, much higher than from an air/water gun.

Are you skiing Mt Snow this weekend? I suspect a bunch of Killington people would be interested in an end-of-Saturday report.

I'll be on snow there and will post a report. Although since I will have my 4 year old daughter skiing with me all day, I can't guarentee that I'll be sampling all the open trails

Please do. I'll bet a lot of the New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut crew would appreciate the shorter drive home from Mt Snow. For me, Mt Snow is brutal since there are no east-west roads. I've tried going to Keene and taking 101 all the way to the coast. That's really slow. The next time, I'd probably try Route 2 to I-495 even though it's more miles.

If the whole gang decides on Mt Snow, I might do it to join the party.

skiingsnow wrote:
Nothing on Mount Snows website yet on their plans for the summer, nothing I can find anyway. . .

Skiingsnow, REREAD the 1st lines of the opening post that pcgrantham started this thread with for your answer:

"To our valued passholders,



Here's a heads up on news that will be released to the media on Monday. We wanted you to know first!"

Enough said, they just simply want their core customers to know the exact details before everyone else. Most of this was already told to passholders too at their passholders meeting back in mid-March. They just finalized the details.

I'm sure I'll also be able to thank multiple members of Mount Snow's administration for this when I'm skiing this weekend as they're readily visible around the base area just about every single day.

Geoff wrote:

DrJeff wrote:

Geoff wrote:

DrJeff wrote:

newpylong wrote:Goddam, 150 more?

The way that Mount Snow is headed, by the time they get The West Lake project done and their water supply basically doubles and then they take the mountain to 100% snowmaking, they may very well be talking 500 or so fan guns!

Heck, just the savings alone on the 200,000 odd gallons of Diesel that the old rental compressors consumed will start to save some $$ even with the larger electric bill. Plus, not only are they quiet, but they have a heck of a conversion rate of water to snow, much higher than from an air/water gun.

Are you skiing Mt Snow this weekend? I suspect a bunch of Killington people would be interested in an end-of-Saturday report.

I'll be on snow there and will post a report. Although since I will have my 4 year old daughter skiing with me all day, I can't guarentee that I'll be sampling all the open trails

Please do. I'll bet a lot of the New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut crew would appreciate the shorter drive home from Mt Snow. For me, Mt Snow is brutal since there are no east-west roads. I've tried going to Keene and taking 101 all the way to the coast. That's really slow. The next time, I'd probably try Route 2 to I-495 even though it's more miles.

If the whole gang decides on Mt Snow, I might do it to join the party.

I'll be there, easy to find to, just look for the 6'3" guy skiing with a "kidlet" whose wearing a pink princess helmet cover

I'm in the same boat as Geoff

its a PAIN to get to Mt Snow from where I am

I am interested to see if the K budget this year was austerity because they didn't trust any of the ASC numbers and they wanted to fix as many costs as possible.

Its obvious that they're actually throwing some money at the resort this summer.

laseranimal wrote:I'm in the same boat as Geoff

its a PAIN to get to Mt Snow from where I am

I am interested to see if the K budget this year was austerity because they didn't trust any of the ASC numbers and they wanted to fix as many costs as possible.

Its obvious that they're actually throwing some money at the resort this summer.

Good point, LA. You want to get your feet firmly on the ground before
trying to scale new heights or regain former glory.

Dr J

reading comprehension isn't one of skippy's strong points, making quick opinions with limited research, driving around aimlessly and shutterbugging is..

laseranimal wrote:I'm in the same boat as Geoff

its a PAIN to get to Mt Snow from where I am

I am interested to see if the K budget this year was austerity because they didn't trust any of the ASC numbers and they wanted to fix as many costs as possible.

Its obvious that they're actually throwing some money at the resort this summer.

Why is it a PAIN for you? Just come across on 9, no?

ozzy wrote:Dr J

reading comprehension isn't one of skippy's strong points, making quick opinions with limited research, driving around aimlessly and shutterbugging is..

I know Ozzy, just enjoying the regular game of "whack a skippy"

ozzy wrote:Dr J

reading comprehension isn't one of skippy's strong points, making quick opinions with limited research, driving around aimlessly and shutterbugging is..

You forgot the Dungeons and Dragons!

SPORE wrote:

ozzy wrote:Dr J

reading comprehension isn't one of skippy's strong points, making quick opinions with limited research, driving around aimlessly and shutterbugging is..

You forgot the Dungeons and Dragons!

Just put him on ignore until next November when he starts putting up meaningful photos. It's pointless trying to engage him in a meaningful debate.