AlpineZone For Sale

[JerseyGuy]

"Alpine Zone is the perfect place for me to spew my dishonest, nonsensical PR spin without any chance of rebuttal from the public. Greggy provides a valuable channel for us to communicate to our eighteen remaining core skiers and riders while deftly parrying any other off-message responses from the general public. Alpine Zone is my bitch, and you can be my new bitch for the low, low price of $120,000... bid now!"

-- Tommy Boy Horrocks, Communications Director, Killington Resort and Pico Mountain

Not even trying any more, are you? What happened? Nyberg cancel your stipend for the summer?

[Geoff]

"Alpine Zone is the perfect place for me to spew my dishonest, nonsensical PR spin without any chance of rebuttal from the public. Greggy provides a valuable channel for us to communicate to our eighteen remaining core skiers and riders while deftly parrying any other off-message responses from the general public. Alpine Zone is my bitch, and you can be my new bitch for the low, low price of $120,000... bid now!"

-- Tommy Boy Horrocks, Communications Director, Killington Resort and Pico Mountain

Not even trying any more, are you? What happened? Nyberg cancel your stipend for the summer?

No, Skippy's right. You have it wrong. There are more than 18 Killington customers who read AlpineZone.

[JerseyGuy]

"Alpine Zone is the perfect place for me to spew my dishonest, nonsensical PR spin without any chance of rebuttal from the public. Greggy provides a valuable channel for us to communicate to our eighteen remaining core skiers and riders while deftly parrying any other off-message responses from the general public. Alpine Zone is my bitch, and you can be my new bitch for the low, low price of $120,000... bid now!"

-- Tommy Boy Horrocks, Communications Director, Killington Resort and Pico Mountain

Not even trying any more, are you? What happened? Nyberg cancel your stipend for the summer?

No, Skippy's right. You have it wrong. There are more than 18 Killington customers who read AlpineZone.

I stand corrected.

[Mister Moose]

Not even trying any more, are you? What happened? Nyberg cancel your stipend for the summer?

No, Skippy's right. You have it wrong. There are more than 18 Killington customers who read AlpineZone.

I stand corrected.

The rare JG smackdown.

[rogman]

"Alpine Zone is the perfect place for me to spew my dishonest, nonsensical PR spin without any chance of rebuttal from the public. Greggy provides a valuable channel for us to communicate to our eighteen remaining core skiers and riders while deftly parrying any other off-message responses from the general public. Alpine Zone is my bitch, and you can be my new bitch for the low, low price of $120,000... bid now!"

-- Tommy Boy Horrocks, Communications Director, Killington Resort and Pico Mountain

Not even trying any more, are you? What happened? Nyberg cancel your stipend for the summer?

No, Skippy's right. You have it wrong. There are more than 18 Killington customers who read AlpineZone.

By my count there were 28 unique responders to that the "K#1" thread on AZ. So, yeah, you were off by ten. Of course, probably 20 percent of them never ski Killington, so that would bring the number down to about 22. And I don't want to hear about that "views" nonsense. I can refresh all day long, and ratchet up that number. I'm sure that's what Greg does during his free time. ("Seven more clicks and I can get $120000.08").

Ok, r*in's stopped, time to go get a life....

[andyzee]

Ok, r*in's stopped, time to go get a life....

Check the forcast.

[Geoff]

"Alpine Zone is the perfect place for me to spew my dishonest, nonsensical PR spin without any chance of rebuttal from the public. Greggy provides a valuable channel for us to communicate to our eighteen remaining core skiers and riders while deftly parrying any other off-message responses from the general public. Alpine Zone is my bitch, and you can be my new bitch for the low, low price of $120,000... bid now!"

-- Tommy Boy Horrocks, Communications Director, Killington Resort and Pico Mountain

No, Skippy's right. You have it wrong. There are more than 18 Killington customers who read AlpineZone.

By my count there were 28 unique responders to that the "K#1" thread on AZ. So, yeah, you were off by ten. Of course, probably 20 percent of them never ski Killington, so that would bring the number down to about 22. And I don't want to hear about that "views" nonsense. I can refresh all day long, and ratchet up that number. I'm sure that's what Greg does during his free time. ("Seven more clicks and I can get $120000.08").

So you are agreeing with my rather tongue-in-cheek correction of JerseyGuy. More than 18 Killington customers read the "dishonest, nonsensical PR spin without any chance of rebuttal from the public". I may disagree with the tone but there wasn't anything else in his post that was factually incorrect. I initially wanted to tell JerseyGuy to stop with the vitriol but if you deleted "eighteen remaining" from what he wrote, you really can't argue against it. The spin has indeed been dishonest at times. It's been nonsensical even more often. Greg takes advertising dollars from Killington and won't allow rebuttal. AlpineZone is indeed biased towards their advertisers.... as they should be. It's kind of pathetic that Killington doesn't have anyone competent or credible enough to engage on the only internet message board for their resort. A little candor and honesty would go a long way.

[rogman]

"Alpine Zone is the perfect place for me to spew my dishonest, nonsensical PR spin without any chance of rebuttal from the public. Greggy provides a valuable channel for us to communicate to our eighteen remaining core skiers and riders while deftly parrying any other off-message responses from the general public. Alpine Zone is my bitch, and you can be my new bitch for the low, low price of $120,000... bid now!"

-- Tommy Boy Horrocks, Communications Director, Killington Resort and Pico Mountain

No, Skippy's right. You have it wrong. There are more than 18 Killington customers who read AlpineZone.

By my count there were 28 unique responders to that the "K#1" thread on AZ. So, yeah, you were off by ten. Of course, probably 20 percent of them never ski Killington, so that would bring the number down to about 22. And I don't want to hear about that "views" nonsense. I can refresh all day long, and ratchet up that number. I'm sure that's what Greg does during his free time. ("Seven more clicks and I can get $120000.08").

So you are agreeing with my rather tongue-in-cheek correction of JerseyGuy. More than 18 Killington customers read the "dishonest, nonsensical PR spin without any chance of rebuttal from the public". I may disagree with the tone but there wasn't anything else in his post that was factually incorrect. I initially wanted to tell JerseyGuy to stop with the vitriol but if you deleted "eighteen remaining" from what he wrote, you really can't argue against it. The spin has indeed been dishonest at times. It's been nonsensical even more often. Greg takes advertising dollars from Killington and won't allow rebuttal. AlpineZone is indeed biased towards their advertisers.... as they should be. It's kind of pathetic that Killington doesn't have anyone competent or credible enough to engage on the only internet message board for their resort. A little candor and honesty would go a long way.

While I find JG's parody's amusing, I'm not the butt of them, either. Tom's stuck between a rock and a hard place. If he really told the truth, he'd probably get canned. He's got family, give the guy a break. I don't think he's what's wrong with Killington, he's just the messenger. But yeah, a little candor, honesty (and given their failings, some humility at this point) would go a long way. I wouldn't hold your breath, it isn't part of their corporate culture.

[laseranimal]

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on the other hand, diplomacy is telling someone to go to hell and making them feel glad their going. Case in point, someone walked into the pro shop and asked why we don't have a map of the course on our scorecards. The owner politely said, "we're making some course changes and we'll get a map on the card as soon as we make the changes". The guy nodded like he understood and went out to the course.

After the customer left I asked "really?" and the owner chuckled and said that when he started the course he bought something like 50,000 scorecards and he's got something like 10-20,000 lying around in the back so as soon as he has to order scorecards "he'll get right on those course changes". Then he said "all business is bulls*t, and all successful business men are bullsh*tters"

I'm not saying that Killington has to be honest and candid, they just have to make me feel better when they ignore and lie to me.

[andyzee]

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on the other hand, diplomacy is telling someone to go to hell and making them feel glad their going. Case in point, someone walked into the pro shop and asked why we don't have a map of the course on our scorecards. The owner politely said, "we're making some course changes and we'll get a map on the card as soon as we make the changes". The guy nodded like he understood and went out to the course.

After the customer left I asked "really?" and the owner chuckled and said that when he started the course he bought something like 50,000 scorecards and he's got something like 10-20,000 lying around in the back so as soon as he has to order scorecards "he'll get right on those course changes". Then he said "all business is bulls*t, and all successful business men are bullsh*tters"

I'm not saying that Killington has to be honest and candid, they just have to make me feel better when they ignore and lie to me.

Would flowers and wine do the trick? :)

[CAPBOY]

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they just have to make me feel better when they ignore and lie to me.

Actually, it woul be better if they did the former. They do hear you and respond with the latter. If they just shut up from the beginning they would have been in a much better place with the public.