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Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 12:27
by HomeStretchFan
Epic Local Pass $600
Max Pass $600 (early season)

$1200 = skiing at the best resorts in North America.

What's Killington's main pass -- over $1000K right?

Expect pass prices to come down sharply -- and daily ticket prices sharply rise -- or we will see resorts start to fold.

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 12:38
by Big Bob
It will be interesting to see if Stowe is included in the bargin Epic pass pricing structure or will there be a premium attached to include Stowe.

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 12:58
by skimom
blakeslee_a wrote:Hope some of you guys bought stock like I did!! In other news sugarbush and K and other mountains are pretty screwed trying to compete with an $800 season pass good at 11 resorts

Agreed you cant beat their deal on season pass

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 13:26
by HomeStretchFan
Big Bob wrote:It will be interesting to see if Stowe is included in the bargin Epic pass pricing structure or will there be a premium attached to include Stowe.
So far, they haven't attached any sort of premiums to their passes.

The Epic Local Pass ($600) has 10 days for use (except peak days) at Vail and Beaver Creek. They even gave users 5 days at Whistler this season.
The Epic Pass ($800) has no restrictions, and also got 5 days at Whistler.

They didn't add any restrictions to Park City when they bought the Canyons from Powdr (a much bigger $$$ purchase IIRC).

The talk up at Whistler was how much pass prices would come down in the off-season when Vail officially took over everything.

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 15:02
by Highway Star
Stowe has had major crowding problems for the last 15+ years. Even with the new quads on Spruce. There's no way you'll be getting Stowe on an epic local pass for $600.

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 15:05
by brownman
Stowe locals will welcome Epic pass.
The impact at Stowe will fall on facilities and operations as people from parts unknown will now flock there.
Heck, MTN could raise it $100-$200 and wouldn't face much pushback.
A few weeks ago at Whistler, seemingly everyone we met there was from Australia .. all of them skiing on an Epic Pass.
Australia has Perisher, but nobody we spoke with ever goes there. Easier to fly (14hrs) to Vancouver and visit the Alpine.

So happy Wilmot is on there :lol:

:Toast

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 15:20
by rogman
Vail gains access to Stowe's upscale client base, which is good for their western resorts. Stowe gains access to Vail's bottom feeders who like their cheap passes. I can't call this is a win for Stowe aficionados, other than saving them a bunch of money on season passes at the expense of even more crowding. Having a heavy hitter with deep pockets in New England will be good to break up the existing "which resort can invest the least in their infrastructure stalemate". Right now it appears NE only see new lifts when old ones catastrophically fail. If Vail is serious about selling more Epic passes, they're not done: they will be adding to their Eastern portfolio.

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 15:44
by freeski
If you bought a condo at Spruce Peak for an average of $750,000 you might not be happy about this.
note: I did not buy one.

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 17:06
by Big Bob
freeski wrote:If you bought a condo at Spruce Peak for an average of $750,000 you might not be happy about this.
note: I did not buy one.
Yea, I heard you bought 2! :wink:

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 17:58
by hillbangin
freeski wrote:If you bought a condo at Spruce Peak for an average of $750,000 you might not be happy about this.
note: I did not buy one.
If you rent it - it's a homerun - If you bought it to ski at Stowe every weekend - you just lost - but your investment is in better shape.

It will be interesting to see the reaction of the town - things are going to get busier.

If you own a business - great - if you like you 'quaint New England town' not so great.

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 18:39
by SnoBrdr
freeski wrote:If you bought a condo at Spruce Peak for an average of $750,000 you might not be happy about this.
note: I did not buy one.
I was told you bought two.

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 19:02
by freeski
To be honest I needed 4 full and 2 half baths, so I went for the $3,000,000 cabin. 8)
http://www.sprucepeak.com/mountain-cabins" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



122 Nosedive Drive 4-Bedroom Mansfield 4 4.5 3,000 3,000,000
33 Inspiration Lane 4-Bedroom Mansfield 4 4 full and 2 half baths 3,000 3,300,000
52 Inspiration Drive 4-Bedroom Mansfield 4 4 full and 2 half baths 2,996 3,275,000
57 Nosedive Drive 4-Bedroom Mansfield/ Down Valley 4 4 full and 2 half baths 2,996 3,300,000
78 Inspiration Drive 4-Bedroom Mansfield 4 4.5 2,996 2,900,000
Mountain Cabin #2 4-Bedroom Mansfield 4 4.5 2,996 SOLD
Mountain Cabin #3 4-Bedroom Mansfield 4 4.5 2,996 SOLD
Mountain Cabin #4 4-Bedroom Mansfield 4 4.5 2,996 SOLD
Mountain Cabin #5 4-Bedroom Mansfield 4 4.5 2,996 SOLD
Mountain Cabin #6 4-Bedroom Mansfield 4 4.5 2,996 SOLD

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 19:59
by Guy in Shorts
Stopped into the sales office on Spruce Peak a few years back. An eighth of a time share was 350 grand. Never left anywhere before feeling that poor. Only ski there once in a while now. Love the terrain, vibe and Alchemist brewery access.

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 21st, '17, 20:30
by Big Bob
Guy in Shorts wrote:Stopped into the sales office on Spruce Peak a few years back. An eighth of a time share was 350 grand. Never left anywhere before feeling that poor. Only ski there once in a while now. Love the terrain, vibe and Alchemist brewery access.
Hell, it's more fun to drink beer in a muddy parking lot, save your money!

Re: Vail buys Stowe

Posted: Feb 22nd, '17, 07:53
by SnoBrdr
Why does anyone really think this will cause K to spend and cash on lifts, buildings, etc.

They have their plan and bet they will stick to it, if that means spending no $$,that's what they will do.

It's very wishful thinking that K will lower the price of the passes but it remains to be seen.

Same with lifts.