Iran and nukes

[Kpdemello]

This is setting up just like WMD .. this time no Colin Powell to give it credence.
The customary flailing by team Drumph continues unabated.

While I don't think Trump wants war, he's got some of the same people on his national security team that GW Bush did during the Iraq WMD nonsense. Hopefully he doesn't buy into their BS the way GW did. There's a lot of hawks out there that think we should have just kept right on going into Iran in 2003.

[madhatter]

This is setting up just like WMD .. this time no Colin Powell to give it credence.
The customary flailing by team Drumph continues unabated.

While I don't think Trump wants war, he's got some of the same people on his national security team that GW Bush did during the Iraq WMD nonsense. Hopefully he doesn't buy into their BS the way GWfueled by media support, no worries this time around... did. There's a lot of hawks out there that think we should have just kept right on going into Iran in 2003.

so should he listen to his advisers or should he make his own decisions? you seem to be on both sides of the fence w this...

[Bubba]

Wall Street Journal is reporting that Iran and the US misread each others' intentions. The Iranian government interpreted some US moves as a prelude to an invasion which they then responded to with their own moves that the US interpreted as preparation to attack US interests in the region. Both governments are now trying to dial back the rhetoric and both Trump and the Ayatollah have each said they're not looking for a war.

[freeski]

You know Trump ran on not telling the other side. IE Obama pulling out of...

Iran never says anything we believe.
never

[freeski]

More than saber rattling...

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[Kpdemello]

Here we go again:

President Donald Trump accused Iran of “secretly” enriching uranium in violation of the 2015 nuclear deal he withdrew from last year, and said the U.S. would soon impose more sanctions on the Islamic Republic.

Trump Tweet: "Iran has long been secretly 'enriching,' in total violation of the terrible 150 Billion Dollar deal made by John Kerry and the Obama Administration. Remember, that deal was to expire in a short number of years. Sanctions will soon be increased, substantially!"

Trump didn’t elaborate on how he knew Iran had violated the nuclear pact or what new sanctions he would impose. The International Atomic Energy Agency has said Iran was in compliance with the 2015 agreement, which allowed some enrichment. Recently, Iran and the IAEA said the country began exceeding limits imposed by the deal.

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Does anyone actually believe this man that Iran was secretly enriching uranium? Not that I don't think Iran would do such a thing, but where's the evidence? Apparently international inspectors from the IAEA have been conducting their inspections and found no such violation prior to Trump's pullout of the deal. This sounds a lot like Iraq all over again, with a less trustworthy President in office.

[XtremeJibber2001]

Here we go again:

President Donald Trump accused Iran of “secretly” enriching uranium in violation of the 2015 nuclear deal he withdrew from last year, and said the U.S. would soon impose more sanctions on the Islamic Republic.

Trump Tweet: "Iran has long been secretly 'enriching,' in total violation of the terrible 150 Billion Dollar deal made by John Kerry and the Obama Administration. Remember, that deal was to expire in a short number of years. Sanctions will soon be increased, substantially!"

Trump didn’t elaborate on how he knew Iran had violated the nuclear pact or what new sanctions he would impose. The International Atomic Energy Agency has said Iran was in compliance with the 2015 agreement, which allowed some enrichment. Recently, Iran and the IAEA said the country began exceeding limits imposed by the deal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -nuke-deal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Does anyone actually believe this man that Iran was secretly enriching uranium? Not that I don't think Iran would do such a thing, but where's the evidence? Apparently international inspectors from the IAEA have been conducting their inspections and found no such violation prior to Trump's pullout of the deal. This sounds a lot like Iraq all over again, with a less trustworthy President in office.

How do you know IAEA isn't part of the deep state? /s

[madhatter]

Here we go again:

President Donald Trump accused Iran of “secretly” enriching uranium in violation of the 2015 nuclear deal he withdrew from last year, and said the U.S. would soon impose more sanctions on the Islamic Republic.

Trump Tweet: "Iran has long been secretly 'enriching,' in total violation of the terrible 150 Billion Dollar deal made by John Kerry and the Obama Administration. Remember, that deal was to expire in a short number of years. Sanctions will soon be increased, substantially!"

Trump didn’t elaborate on how he knew Iran had violated the nuclear pact or what new sanctions he would impose. The International Atomic Energy Agency has said Iran was in compliance with the 2015 agreement, which allowed some enrichment. Recently, Iran and the IAEA said the country began exceeding limits imposed by the deal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -nuke-deal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Does anyone actually believe this man that Iran was secretly enriching uranium? Not that I don't think Iran would do such a thing, but where's the evidence? Apparently international inspectors from the IAEA have been conducting their inspections and found no such violation prior to Trump's pullout of the deal. This sounds a lot like Iraq all over again, with a less trustworthy President in office.

so you think trump is warmongering? seriously? do you ever pay any attention at all? to anything but colbert?

orange man bad...but yeah yer not suffering TDS...

[madhatter]

Here we go again:

President Donald Trump accused Iran of “secretly” enriching uranium in violation of the 2015 nuclear deal he withdrew from last year, and said the U.S. would soon impose more sanctions on the Islamic Republic.

Trump Tweet: "Iran has long been secretly 'enriching,' in total violation of the terrible 150 Billion Dollar deal made by John Kerry and the Obama Administration. Remember, that deal was to expire in a short number of years. Sanctions will soon be increased, substantially!"

Trump didn’t elaborate on how he knew Iran had violated the nuclear pact or what new sanctions he would impose. The International Atomic Energy Agency has said Iran was in compliance with the 2015 agreement, which allowed some enrichment. Recently, Iran and the IAEA said the country began exceeding limits imposed by the deal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -nuke-deal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Does anyone actually believe this man that Iran was secretly enriching uranium? Not that I don't think Iran would do such a thing, but where's the evidence? Apparently international inspectors from the IAEA have been conducting their inspections and found no such violation prior to Trump's pullout of the deal. This sounds a lot like Iraq all over again, with a less trustworthy President in office.

How do you know IAEA isn't part of the deep state? /s

good one...

seriously though, it's less powerful than the UN...what power does it have to actually do anything or see anything it's not shown...

trump never approved of the obama deal ( neither did I) he said he was gonna pull out of it and he did...right now iran is reeling and powerless to do much about it...they can make a bunch of idle threats and they can try a few more "terror" events but it's not going to get them anywhere...

[Kpdemello]

More diplomatic cable leaks:

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The Mail on Sunday reports that Sir Kim wrote to Mr Johnson informing him Republican President Trump appeared to be abandoning the nuclear deal for "personality reasons" - because the pact had been agreed by his Democrat predecessor, Barack Obama.

Sounds about right given the lack of any articulated reason for scrapping the deal.

Also on the lack of any kind of follow up strategy to pulling out of the deal:

"Moreover, they can't articulate any 'day-after' strategy; and contacts with State Department this morning suggest no sort of plan for reaching out to partners and allies, whether in Europe or the region."

I see the Iran situation as the Trump administration's single greatest screw up.

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[madhatter]

More diplomatic cable leaks:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48978484" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Mail on Sunday reports that Sir Kim wrote to Mr Johnson informing him Republican President Trump appeared to be abandoning the nuclear deal for "personality reasons" - because the pact had been agreed by his Democrat predecessor, Barack Obama.

Sounds about right given the lack of any articulated reason for scrapping the deal. many were opposed to the deal LONG before trump was a factor...congress refused to take it up or ratify it...

Also on the lack of any kind of follow up strategy to pulling out of the deal:

"Moreover, they can't articulate any 'day-after' strategy; and contacts with State Department this morning suggest no sort of plan for reaching out to partners and allies, whether in Europe or the region."

I see the Iran situation as the Trump administration's single greatest screw up. and still it's a success as iran's economy and ability to sponsor proxy terror has been decimated...

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the very stupid person who lost his cush job as an ambassador? the guy trump told to hit the road? yeah who gives two sh!ts what his opinion is...