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Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 2nd, '24, 17:49
by rogman
No ski off? What kind of challenge is this?

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 2nd, '24, 18:17
by Captain Hafski
Did you mean Market 32 [Price Chopper] vs Grand Union?

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 2nd, '24, 18:36
by Mister Moose
This is comical. Vermont takes a regulatory flame thrower to any kind of residential building, and then asks, "Gee, no one's building and we have a shortage, oh what can we do?"

There is also the Vermont Land Gain Tax (Ignored by that article) that effectively prohibits more houses, and has spilled over into discouraging renovations too.

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 2nd, '24, 18:57
by Bubba
Mister Moose wrote: Jan 2nd, '24, 18:36 This is comical. Vermont takes a regulatory flame thrower to any kind of residential building, and then asks, "Gee, no one's building and we have a shortage, oh what can we do?"

There is also the Vermont Land Gain Tax (Ignored by that article) that effectively prohibits more houses, and has spilled over into discouraging renovations too.
The legislature now has a proposal to modify Act 250 in what appears to be a meaningful way, at least for those areas that have effective zoning laws. In those areas the Act would be waived, thus allowing faster development and denser housing. The proposal was put together by groups who normally fight each other on such issues.

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 2nd, '24, 19:26
by Bayfive
Captain , my experience was at Grand Union, some real sketchy people hang around there

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 2nd, '24, 20:03
by Pedro
Bayfive wrote: Jan 2nd, '24, 17:38 Ok hillbanging , jimmy and Pedro , let’s put a end to this debate I’m gonna take some morning runs then let’s meet at Walmart in Rutland around 1:00 tomorrow , we will walk around , check out the sights then walk across the street to the Angler pub for some 3 $ pints of P B R and discuss what we just witnessed , “ it’s like every other Walmart “ I think not , and for everyone bitching about the price of a pint at K , check out the Angler
Its like every other Walmart.....at least thats what my personal assistant says.

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 2nd, '24, 20:10
by Bubba
Another cause of the housing shortage is more people moving in than moving out.

Vermont once again leads United list of top moving destinations 2023

https://vermontbiz.com/news/2024/januar ... bddxGdGhKp


U-Haul Migration Trends: Texas, Florida top growth states again in 2023, Vermont 12th

https://vermontbiz.com/news/2024/januar ... bddxGdGhKp

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 2nd, '24, 20:22
by Bayfive
Try to buy socks at Walmart in Rutland , you have to get a store employee to unlock the case that they are stored in because people are steeling them so much , that’s not like “ every other Walmart “

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 2nd, '24, 20:25
by spanky
Bubba wrote:Another cause of the housing shortage is more people moving in than moving out.

Vermont once again leads United list of top moving destinations 2023

https://vermontbiz.com/news/2024/januar ... bddxGdGhKp


U-Haul Migration Trends: Texas, Florida top growth states again in 2023, Vermont 12th

https://vermontbiz.com/news/2024/januar ... bddxGdGhKp
A little tip… everything after the question mark in the URL is unnecessary (and most likely tracking of some sort)…

https://vermontbiz.com/news/2024/januar ... tions-2023

https://vermontbiz.com/news/2024/januar ... 23-vermont

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 2nd, '24, 21:16
by Pedro
Bayfive wrote: Jan 2nd, '24, 20:22 Try to buy socks at Walmart in Rutland , you have to get a store employee to unlock the case that they are stored in because people are steeling them so much , that’s not like “ every other Walmart “
Its like every other walmart.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/business/ ... eft-cases/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurendebt ... c8c29c11ca
https://wjon.com/socks-underwear-locked ... d-walmart/

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 3rd, '24, 06:47
by wtf021
Bayfive wrote: Jan 2nd, '24, 20:22 Try to buy socks at Walmart in Rutland , you have to get a store employee to unlock the case that they are stored in because people are steeling them so much , that’s not like “ every other Walmart “
So in other words Rutland is in your budget but not good enough so you want someone to subsidize your ski bum lifestyle by building "affordable" housing in Killington.

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 3rd, '24, 07:03
by rogman
The elephant in the room is the demise of the Killington share house culture.

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 3rd, '24, 07:46
by Bayfive
I can well afford my ski bum lifestyle, I live in a single family house that I own on 10 acres, with two garages full of toys 12 miles from the mountain , my point was that Rutland is a sh-t hole not this great place 20 minutes away

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 3rd, '24, 07:57
by boston_e
Pedro wrote: Jan 2nd, '24, 21:16
Bayfive wrote: Jan 2nd, '24, 20:22 Try to buy socks at Walmart in Rutland , you have to get a store employee to unlock the case that they are stored in because people are steeling them so much , that’s not like “ every other Walmart “
Its like every other walmart.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/business/ ... eft-cases/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurendebt ... c8c29c11ca
https://wjon.com/socks-underwear-locked ... d-walmart/
Well, its like some Walmarts - the one near me for sure does not have everything locked up like that.

Re: State fo VT seeks answers to solving the housing crisis.

Posted: Jan 3rd, '24, 07:59
by boston_e
Bayfive wrote: Jan 3rd, '24, 07:46 I can well afford my ski bum lifestyle, I live in a single family house that I own on 10 acres, with two garages full of toys 12 miles from the mountain , my point was that Rutland is a sh-t hole not this great place 20 minutes away
sh*t hole is a bit harsh - its not some resort town, but its a reasonable city where (at least from some online research) someone who works at the mountain can find reasonably priced housing.