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Re: How the Opioid Crisis Made Vail Resorts the World’s Largest Ski Conglomerate
Posted: Jan 30th, '25, 13:43
by KingsFourMan
Skid Mark wrote: ↑Jan 30th, '25, 13:06
Fentanyl is the new scourge coming over our open Southern border. Glad that the border is no longer as open as it used to be.
Our oldest daughter who is in grad school at CU in Denver had her car stolen about 3 weeks ago. The car was recovered with minimal damage about 2 weeks later after they drove it around stealing packages off of front porches as seen by at least 3 doorbell cams. As a matter of routine, the insurance companies now swab recovered vehicles for drugs and if any drugs are detected, they total the vehicle which was the case with her car. One can only assume that someone who got their recovered car back accidentally ingested that sh*t and died.
Denver, which is a sanctuary city, is an absolute cesspool now. Our daughter lived just a few miles from that apartment complex in Aurora that was terrorized by "undocumented" immigrants otherwise known as "violent illegal" immigrants who are now thankfully being rounded up on mass and shipped the f*ck out.
Re: How the Opioid Crisis Made Vail Resorts the World’s Largest Ski Conglomerate
Posted: Jan 30th, '25, 16:49
by deadheadskier
jimmywilson69 wrote: ↑Jan 30th, '25, 13:18
deadheadskier wrote: ↑Jan 30th, '25, 12:08
I actually stopped going to Phish shows from late 99 to 09 because of what Oxys and heroin did to the scene.
You should've seen 2000 and 2003-2004... OOF
Glad we didn't loose Trey to that sh*t.
Saw it coming. Providence 12-13-99 ended it for me. I can still picture the two wooks in a dark corner of the concourse shooting up while I was walking to a bathroom. I had intended on quitting my bartending gig in Stowe and meeting some friends down in Cypress, but that changed my mind. On the one hand, I missed a legendary show, but I knew it was time for me to move on.
Definitely a miracle Trey got clean
Re: How the Opioid Crisis Made Vail Resorts the World’s Largest Ski Conglomerate
Posted: Jan 30th, '25, 18:42
by asher2789
BoozeTan wrote: ↑Jan 30th, '25, 11:26
jimmywilson69 wrote: ↑Jan 30th, '25, 10:10
Painkillers. Its not a documentary. Mathew Broderick is the main character. Does a fantastic job. Drama based on actual events.
Crazy sh*t.
When I broke my leg in 2021 playing hockey they gave me 200, yes 2 0 0, Vicodin. When I went back at 3 weeks to get a walking cast, they wanted to give me 200 more!!! Having not even used half of the first 200 hundred I said no. But knowing what we know now, they were literally pushing that sh*t on everyone.
If you've lost someone to opioid addiction its worth a watch and you may get some understanding how so many "normal" people got hooked on this sh*t.
Back in 2000 I was hit by an out of control skier at Sugarbush. Flew off the trail and hit a tree. Ended up with an L1 burst fracture. I was in the hospital for a week and a half. While there they were giving me morphine for the pain. When I wanted one Id hit the call button and the nurse would give me some. After awhile they hooked me up to a morphine pump that would give me 1 milligram every 10 minutes if I hit the button. At first I didnt like it. The morphine made my hand sting. Thats where the IV was injecting it into my body. But after awhile I would hear the relay in the machine click and bam Id hit the button, just because the pain was so bad. I eventually started to like the feeling. Im glad I dont have an addictive personality but after that I could see why some ppl get hooked on it.
On a side note to this story, I was taken to Rutland hospital initially. The doctors were outside my room looking at my xrays, one of them remarked, Oh My god. I was like hey, I can hear you, how about some bedside manner...they came in my room and said that I would need surgery but they didnt have an orthopedic surgeon. My first thought was what do you mean you dont have a bone doctor in the winter at a hospital that is in the center of at least 3 major ski areas? They said I could go to Montpelier or Dartmouth. Something in my brain said Dartmouth, college, smart people. So thats where I went. After the Drs there looked at my xrays I asked them what he recovery time would be for the surgery. The Doctor said I didnt need surgery for this, just a clam-shell type brace that Id have to wear for 3 months whenever I was up walking around. I said but Rutland said I needed surgery. He looked at me and said listen, if you get hurt in Vermont make them bring you here. They are 10 years behind us....so if yo get hurt, go to Dartmouth
rutland is now one of the best orthopedic hospitals in the country and its independent so you get better care. ive had numerous experiences with that hospital including emergency orthopedic and no complaints. and i hate the healthcare industry due to major trauma. for non orthopedic serious stuff, dartmouth is the move.
dont go there though for any injuries involving dental - theres nothing they can do except imaging, antibiotics and opiates. they dont have an oral surgeon or dentist on staff.
also the food is great.
Re: How the Opioid Crisis Made Vail Resorts the World’s Largest Ski Conglomerate
Posted: Jan 31st, '25, 08:35
by BoozeTan
asher2789 wrote: ↑Jan 30th, '25, 18:42
BoozeTan wrote: ↑Jan 30th, '25, 11:26
Back in 2000 I was hit by an out of control skier at Sugarbush. Flew off the trail and hit a tree. Ended up with an L1 burst fracture. I was in the hospital for a week and a half. While there they were giving me morphine for the pain. When I wanted one Id hit the call button and the nurse would give me some. After awhile they hooked me up to a morphine pump that would give me 1 milligram every 10 minutes if I hit the button. At first I didnt like it. The morphine made my hand sting. Thats where the IV was injecting it into my body. But after awhile I would hear the relay in the machine click and bam Id hit the button, just because the pain was so bad. I eventually started to like the feeling. Im glad I dont have an addictive personality but after that I could see why some ppl get hooked on it.
On a side note to this story, I was taken to Rutland hospital initially. The doctors were outside my room looking at my xrays, one of them remarked, Oh My god. I was like hey, I can hear you, how about some bedside manner...they came in my room and said that I would need surgery but they didnt have an orthopedic surgeon. My first thought was what do you mean you dont have a bone doctor in the winter at a hospital that is in the center of at least 3 major ski areas? They said I could go to Montpelier or Dartmouth. Something in my brain said Dartmouth, college, smart people. So thats where I went. After the Drs there looked at my xrays I asked them what he recovery time would be for the surgery. The Doctor said I didnt need surgery for this, just a clam-shell type brace that Id have to wear for 3 months whenever I was up walking around. I said but Rutland said I needed surgery. He looked at me and said listen, if you get hurt in Vermont make them bring you here. They are 10 years behind us....so if yo get hurt, go to Dartmouth
rutland is now one of the best orthopedic hospitals in the country and its independent so you get better care. ive had numerous experiences with that hospital including emergency orthopedic and no complaints. and i hate the healthcare industry due to major trauma. for non orthopedic serious stuff, dartmouth is the move.
dont go there though for any injuries involving dental - theres nothing they can do except imaging, antibiotics and opiates. they dont have an oral surgeon or dentist on staff.
also the food is great.
well thats good to know. My Rutland experience was over 20 years ago. However, my friend broke his leg this past december, TIbia plateau fracture. He needed surgery. Rutland did not have a surgeon or an OR available for him so he had to leave Rutland and have the surgery in Boston.
Re: How the Opioid Crisis Made Vail Resorts the World’s Largest Ski Conglomerate
Posted: Feb 1st, '25, 00:30
by BurrPondSkiTeam
A couple things to mention regarding medical care for skiers in Rutland.
If Eileen had serious concerns about the ability of medical professionals to treat her daughter after her crash on Superstar on November 30th, they could have gone to Dartmouth rather than Rutland (it may also be worth noting that there's a family history of working at Dartmouth and they once lived in the area).
As well, at one time in the United States if one was a junior ski racer located in New England (or upstate New York) and had potential as a national level talent... and which also had a knee injury requiring surgery, that procedure would often occur in Rutland. The same sort of thing happened out West at the time, where racers would commonly go to the Steadman-Hawkins clinic located in Vail.
The guys (and one gal, if I recall) doing orthopedic work related to sports injuries back then knew very well what they were doing (and there were rumors that they were visited by NFL physicians on a couple of occasions). I would question that today's surgeons and other physicians in the area who work with skiers or very active people are less capable.