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throbster wrote: ↑Jul 27th, '22, 15:27

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 27th, '22, 15:04 Hey look, Trump just gave a speech in Washington D.C. and every major news media outlet covered it. You can also get the whole thing online via YouTube. I wonder how that's possible with big tech, the deep state, and the Jan 6 committee all working against him?

I think maybe the networks like ratings. BTW, the media is not the same as Big Tech, the deep state and the Joke committee, pinhead.

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 27th, '22, 16:03

throbster wrote: ↑Jul 27th, '22, 15:27

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 27th, '22, 15:04 Hey look, Trump just gave a speech in Washington D.C. and every major news media outlet covered it. You can also get the whole thing online via YouTube. I wonder how that's possible with big tech, the deep state, and the Jan 6 committee all working against him?

I think maybe the networks like ratings. BTW, the media is not the same as Big Tech, the deep state and the Joke committee, pinhead.

Of course they like ratings. That's the point. Trump has a full opportunity to publicly rebut anything the Jan 6 committee says about him. The media will cover it, and big tech won't suppress it.

BTW, when did I claim those things are the same? The right-wing media often suggest that they are in league with each other, but I never have.

The chief watchdog at the Department of Homeland Security halted efforts to try to retrieve lost Secret Service text messages from other department phones, the Washington Post reported.

Inspector General Joseph Cuffari’s office had planned to assist all DHS agencies to help recover the lost messages from their phones in early February after learning Secret Service texts had been erased, according to the newspaper late Friday. The Post said two government whistle-blowers had informed Congress about this effort.

But later the same month, the plan was scrapped, the Post said, citing three people it did not name. The article added that Cuffari failed to tell the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol -- and other congressional committees -- that his office had become aware of the lost texts last December.

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 26th, '22, 06:41

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 25th, '22, 19:23

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 22nd, '22, 13:26 I really don't understand this ride or die with Trump thing. Any idiot who's being honest can see that Trump has been a disaster. Just dump him and go for DeSantis, who basically touts the same paltform but has less baggage and a lot more experience in politics. Is it really just that people are too proud to admit they were wrong?

be careful what you wish for... desantis would actually be successful in having the trains run on time in our fascist future. trump is too unstable to be as successful as desantis.

Do not mistake me - I dislike DeSantis and would prefer a more moderate Republican like Romney or Baker. I was just expressing my confusion as to why people still support Trump, who is obviously a failed president, when there is a clearly better alternative if you're into what Trump is selling.

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 11:32

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 26th, '22, 06:41

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 25th, '22, 19:23

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 22nd, '22, 13:26 I really don't understand this ride or die with Trump thing. Any idiot who's being honest can see that Trump has been a disaster. Just dump him and go for DeSantis, who basically touts the same paltform but has less baggage and a lot more experience in politics. Is it really just that people are too proud to admit they were wrong?

be careful what you wish for... desantis would actually be successful in having the trains run on time in our fascist future. trump is too unstable to be as successful as desantis.

Do not mistake me - I dislike DeSantis and would prefer a more moderate Republican like Romney or Baker. I was just expressing my confusion as to why people still support Trump, who is obviously a failed president, when there is a clearly better alternative if you're into what Trump is selling.

likewise. trump is a cult of personality, it goes way beyond policy positions. its about hurting the "right" people.

Fancypants wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 20:58

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 11:32

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 26th, '22, 06:41

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 25th, '22, 19:23

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 22nd, '22, 13:26 I really don't understand this ride or die with Trump thing. Any idiot who's being honest can see that Trump has been a disaster. Just dump him and go for DeSantis, who basically touts the same paltform but has less baggage and a lot more experience in politics. Is it really just that people are too proud to admit they were wrong?

be careful what you wish for... desantis would actually be successful in having the trains run on time in our fascist future. trump is too unstable to be as successful as desantis.

Do not mistake me - I dislike DeSantis and would prefer a more moderate Republican like Romney or Baker. I was just expressing my confusion as to why people still support Trump, who is obviously a failed president, when there is a clearly better alternative if you're into what Trump is selling.

likewise. trump is a cult of personality, it goes way beyond policy positions. its about hurting the "right" people.

Who are the "right" people??? I sense a touch of bias and hypocrisy here, never mind the promotion of pain and suffering...... kind of what the Nazi party fascists did in Germany......

Fancypants wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 20:58

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 11:32

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 26th, '22, 06:41

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 25th, '22, 19:23

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 22nd, '22, 13:26 I really don't understand this ride or die with Trump thing. Any idiot who's being honest can see that Trump has been a disaster. Just dump him and go for DeSantis, who basically touts the same paltform but has less baggage and a lot more experience in politics. Is it really just that people are too proud to admit they were wrong?

be careful what you wish for... desantis would actually be successful in having the trains run on time in our fascist future. trump is too unstable to be as successful as desantis.

Do not mistake me - I dislike DeSantis and would prefer a more moderate Republican like Romney or Baker. I was just expressing my confusion as to why people still support Trump, who is obviously a failed president, when there is a clearly better alternative if you're into what Trump is selling.

likewise. trump is a cult of personality, it goes way beyond policy positions. its about hurting the "right" people.

Who are the "right" people??? I sense a touch of bias and hypocrisy here, never mind the promotion of pain and suffering...... kind of what the Nazi party fascists did in Germany......

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 31st, '22, 19:13

Fancypants wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 20:58

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 11:32

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 26th, '22, 06:41

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 25th, '22, 19:23

be careful what you wish for... desantis would actually be successful in having the trains run on time in our fascist future. trump is too unstable to be as successful as desantis.

Do not mistake me - I dislike DeSantis and would prefer a more moderate Republican like Romney or Baker. I was just expressing my confusion as to why people still support Trump, who is obviously a failed president, when there is a clearly better alternative if you're into what Trump is selling.

likewise. trump is a cult of personality, it goes way beyond policy positions. its about hurting the "right" people.

Who are the "right" people??? I sense a touch of bias and hypocrisy here, never mind the promotion of pain and suffering...... kind of what the Nazi party fascists did in Germany......

you misread. the "right" people are minorities - racial, ethnic, religious, sexual, gender, etc. anybody who is easy to "other" and scapegoat as the reason for america's downfall/collapse. but what the fascist sympathizers and enablers dont realize is that while the fascists start off going after the "right" people they eventually go after the "wrong" people. cue the "first they came for the..." poem.

for the past few years theyve been going after LGBTQ minorities - particularly trans people - and immigrants. but eventually theyll go after anyone who isnt down with their christofascist vision for america - for example, secular christians who vote democrat. my biggest frustration is that last group - the good natured liberals who vote blue no matter who and cant fathom anything beyond voting and protesting to fight fascism. they care too much about appearing polite and respectable to get their hands dirty. and they want to regulate guns out of existence, our only real protection against fascism.

Fancypants wrote: ↑Jul 31st, '22, 20:37

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 31st, '22, 19:13

Fancypants wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 20:58

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 11:32

easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 26th, '22, 06:41

Do not mistake me - I dislike DeSantis and would prefer a more moderate Republican like Romney or Baker. I was just expressing my confusion as to why people still support Trump, who is obviously a failed president, when there is a clearly better alternative if you're into what Trump is selling.

likewise. trump is a cult of personality, it goes way beyond policy positions. its about hurting the "right" people.

Who are the "right" people??? I sense a touch of bias and hypocrisy here, never mind the promotion of pain and suffering...... kind of what the Nazi party fascists did in Germany......

you misread. the "right" people are minorities - racial, ethnic, religious, sexual, gender, etc. anybody who is easy to "other" and scapegoat as the reason for america's downfall/collapse. but what the fascist sympathizers and enablers dont realize is that while the fascists start off going after the "right" people they eventually go after the "wrong" people. cue the "first they came for the..." poem.

for the past few years theyve been going after LGBTQ minorities - particularly trans people - and immigrants. but eventually theyll go after anyone who isnt down with their christofascist vision for america - for example, secular christians who vote democrat. my biggest frustration is that last group - the good natured liberals who vote blue no matter who and cant fathom anything beyond voting and protesting to fight fascism. they care too much about appearing polite and respectable to get their hands dirty. and they want to regulate guns out of existence, our only real protection against fascism.

I did not miss-read and still think you are picking winners and losers....

asher2789 wrote: ↑Aug 1st, '22, 16:57

Fancypants wrote: ↑Jul 31st, '22, 20:37

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 31st, '22, 19:13

Fancypants wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 20:58

asher2789 wrote: ↑Jul 30th, '22, 11:32

likewise. trump is a cult of personality, it goes way beyond policy positions. its about hurting the "right" people.

Who are the "right" people??? I sense a touch of bias and hypocrisy here, never mind the promotion of pain and suffering...... kind of what the Nazi party fascists did in Germany......

you misread. the "right" people are minorities - racial, ethnic, religious, sexual, gender, etc. anybody who is easy to "other" and scapegoat as the reason for america's downfall/collapse. but what the fascist sympathizers and enablers dont realize is that while the fascists start off going after the "right" people they eventually go after the "wrong" people. cue the "first they came for the..." poem.

for the past few years theyve been going after LGBTQ minorities - particularly trans people - and immigrants. but eventually theyll go after anyone who isnt down with their christofascist vision for america - for example, secular christians who vote democrat. my biggest frustration is that last group - the good natured liberals who vote blue no matter who and cant fathom anything beyond voting and protesting to fight fascism. they care too much about appearing polite and respectable to get their hands dirty. and they want to regulate guns out of existence, our only real protection against fascism.

I did not miss-read and still think you are picking winners and losers....

the "right" people is just a euphemism. fascists want fascist policies that harm people they don't like.

Fancypants wrote: ↑Aug 1st, '22, 20:33 So being a protestant white male with a god-given penis who is happily married and faithful to my partner makes me not the "right " people??