Re: Science Rant, Not politics: Can CO2 cause "Climate Chang
Posted: Feb 7th, '17, 13:21
fer sher...Coydog wrote:Excellent summation of climate change - absurd tangents.
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fer sher...Coydog wrote:Excellent summation of climate change - absurd tangents.
nah.......SnoBrdr wrote:A key Obama administration scientist brushed aside inconvenient data that showed a slowdown in global warming in compiling an alarming 2015 report that coincided with the White House participation in the Paris Climate Conference, a whistle blower is alleging.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/ ... arges.html
Not so much.SnoBrdr wrote:A key Obama administration scientist brushed aside inconvenient data that showed a slowdown in global warming in compiling an alarming 2015 report that coincided with the White House participation in the Paris Climate Conference, a whistle blower is alleging.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/ ... arges.html
Probably just more silliness.... looking at GHCN HCN data for Vermont you can see that the data set is VERY noisy but if you were to look for a trend it would not show snow diminishing:Bubba wrote:New England's Ski Industry Prepares for a Changing Climate
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Absolutely fantastic analysis of our current understanding of the world.GSKI wrote:The Democrat party is allied with the "keep it in the ground" folks and will not be satisfied until we are all living in extreme high density housing and eating bugs for protein while under the careful watch of an all powerful federal government dictating our every allowed action. Skiing is an abomination to true environmentalists ESPECIALLY eastern skiing which is energy intensive. Skiing as we know it would not be outlawed but Democrats would make energy and driving so expensive that only they, their rich friends and Hollywood types could afford to do it.
All their models exaggerate what we know are current results. None of them can be back tested which is the gold standard for determining a models worth. Nobody denies the climate changes what is denied is the level of influence mans actions has on the climate and how serious it is. Unilaterally destroying our economy with the kind of increased taxes and regulations Democrats want on energy is not going to help. China and India are NEVER in our life time going to reduce their carbon footprint. So we should unilaterally agree to limit ours? Manufacturing is energy intensive and will leave in even larger numbers to China and India and pollute far worse there than here and simply export the finished goods back to the US. A weaker US means a weaker US military the result likely being world war as that is the history of man since before the US became a super power. That wont be good for the environment either. When I was growing up there were no cell phones or practical personal use computers. A strong US economy has and will continue to produce energy efficiency breakthroughs if we do not destroy it first.
Yep, sure is - if you consider fact-free partisan hogwash as "understanding."Sgt Eddy Brewers wrote:Absolutely fantastic analysis of our current understanding of the world.GSKI wrote:The Democrat party is allied with the "keep it in the ground" folks and will not be satisfied until we are all living in extreme high density housing and eating bugs for protein while under the careful watch of an all powerful federal government dictating our every allowed action. Skiing is an abomination to true environmentalists ESPECIALLY eastern skiing which is energy intensive. Skiing as we know it would not be outlawed but Democrats would make energy and driving so expensive that only they, their rich friends and Hollywood types could afford to do it.
All their models exaggerate what we know are current results. None of them can be back tested which is the gold standard for determining a models worth. Nobody denies the climate changes what is denied is the level of influence mans actions has on the climate and how serious it is. Unilaterally destroying our economy with the kind of increased taxes and regulations Democrats want on energy is not going to help. China and India are NEVER in our life time going to reduce their carbon footprint. So we should unilaterally agree to limit ours? Manufacturing is energy intensive and will leave in even larger numbers to China and India and pollute far worse there than here and simply export the finished goods back to the US. A weaker US means a weaker US military the result likely being world war as that is the history of man since before the US became a super power. That wont be good for the environment either. When I was growing up there were no cell phones or practical personal use computers. A strong US economy has and will continue to produce energy efficiency breakthroughs if we do not destroy it first.
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I'll sum it up for you:killyfan wrote:It will take me at least a week to read all 139 pages of this post - so once I have done so, you'll hear from me again...
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