Snowmaking and Terrain Expansion Thread (2024-2025)

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Waterville is looking pretty nice. . .

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Shows what a bunch of fan guns can do. They aren't open to the public until the 30th, this is all dedicated to race training. Gives you some idea the dollars involved in that, and why Killington wants a piece of that post WC. Maybe we'll see more fan guns on SS after all...
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ski wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 07:43 Waterville is looking pretty nice. . .

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rogman wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:01 Shows what a bunch of fan guns can do. They aren't open to the public until the 30th, this is all dedicated to race training. Gives you some idea the dollars involved in that, and why Killington wants a piece of that post WC. Maybe we'll see more fan guns on SS after all...
impressive indeed. not sure they've outdone what we've done overall including supe, but they've certainly outdone SR. and yeah maybe the answer is more fanguns. apparently there is money in race training.
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skiadikt wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:38
rogman wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:01 Shows what a bunch of fan guns can do. They aren't open to the public until the 30th, this is all dedicated to race training. Gives you some idea the dollars involved in that, and why Killington wants a piece of that post WC. Maybe we'll see more fan guns on SS after all...
impressive indeed. not sure they've outdone what we've done overall including supe, but they've certainly outdone SR. and yeah maybe the answer is more fanguns. apparently there is money in race training.
I hope they have outdone SR. High country is more than 1000' higher elevation than the top of SR, forget about the top of Locke. The snowmaking buid out they did up there also sits ofairly unique high elevation terrain that has been cut basically wide open. Snow you make up there drops on trail and not trees due to that cut. And they have to get a good depth down, as the only lift up there now is a T-Bar on lookers right.
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machski wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:45
skiadikt wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:38
rogman wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:01 Shows what a bunch of fan guns can do. They aren't open to the public until the 30th, this is all dedicated to race training. Gives you some idea the dollars involved in that, and why Killington wants a piece of that post WC. Maybe we'll see more fan guns on SS after all...
impressive indeed. not sure they've outdone what we've done overall including supe, but they've certainly outdone SR. and yeah maybe the answer is more fanguns. apparently there is money in race training.
I hope they have outdone SR. High country is more than 1000' higher elevation than the top of SR, forget about the top of Locke. The snowmaking buid out they did up there also sits ofairly unique high elevation terrain that has been cut basically wide open. Snow you make up there drops on trail and not trees due to that cut. And they have to get a good depth down, as the only lift up there now is a T-Bar on lookers right.
seems like the ideal setup for early season skiing. 400 vert ft served by a t-bar. maybe the size of snowshed but at 4000'. downside is they can't handle the volume in the NR. theoretically they should "win" every season. assuming you take the tecumseh express to get up & down - so no stairs.
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I kind of liked the high country double. The person who said skiing is like bowling, you spent half your time sitting was on to something.
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skiadikt wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 10:24
machski wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:45
skiadikt wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:38
rogman wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:01 Shows what a bunch of fan guns can do. They aren't open to the public until the 30th, this is all dedicated to race training. Gives you some idea the dollars involved in that, and why Killington wants a piece of that post WC. Maybe we'll see more fan guns on SS after all...
impressive indeed. not sure they've outdone what we've done overall including supe, but they've certainly outdone SR. and yeah maybe the answer is more fanguns. apparently there is money in race training.
I hope they have outdone SR. High country is more than 1000' higher elevation than the top of SR, forget about the top of Locke. The snowmaking buid out they did up there also sits ofairly unique high elevation terrain that has been cut basically wide open. Snow you make up there drops on trail and not trees due to that cut. And they have to get a good depth down, as the only lift up there now is a T-Bar on lookers right.
seems like the ideal setup for early season skiing. 400 vert ft served by a t-bar. maybe the size of snowshed but at 4000'. downside is they can't handle the volume in the NR. theoretically they should "win" every season. assuming you take the tecumseh express to get up & down - so no stairs.
It is the ideal setup and not just because of the High Country terrain. If needed they can take a second step down from there with the Northside double before expanding on towards the base . Those North side trails hold snow quite well.

After only skiing WV once since the 80s, I've really enjoyed it the past few seasons I've had the Indy Pass. Very manageable crowds on Saturdays. Only real complaint is they should have gone with a HSQ for the Green Peak expansion. That's a long, slow ride on the old triple they moved over there. The parking setup also kinda sucks.

Lots of potential though if they ever follow through with the village gondola and further terrain expansion on Green.
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High Country is well, high in elevation, and that is where all their water was going. Any decent system would have shined, would have just had to spend a little more diesel moving it around if not for the fans. But they had to do that anyway to blade it onto the T-Bar track.

Look at what Jay did on the Jet in a couple cold nights with their air/water fixed gear.
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not sure they can fire up any guns until sunday overnite and then it's game on starting tuesday nite right through WC weekend. according noaa, we could get a decent amount of snow that may open some additional terrain in the NR and provide some base for the eventual ttb push. thinking we get ttb friday.
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the report says 5" up top. probably cement but good base building snow. some more tonite/tomorrow. lifts on hold for icing.

K & SR are still the only resorts open daily. waterville still doing the race camps (public 11/30). bretton & the ny state (on the taxpayers dime) resorts reopen this weekend. pretty amazing that bellayre is open. all others are on holding patterns. looking at the snowmaking windows, though i'm sure they all have their finger on the trigger, doubt anyone else opens before tgiving at best. thinking ttb at K friday.
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deadheadskier wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 11:18
skiadikt wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 10:24
machski wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:45
skiadikt wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:38
rogman wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:01 Shows what a bunch of fan guns can do. They aren't open to the public until the 30th, this is all dedicated to race training. Gives you some idea the dollars involved in that, and why Killington wants a piece of that post WC. Maybe we'll see more fan guns on SS after all...
impressive indeed. not sure they've outdone what we've done overall including supe, but they've certainly outdone SR. and yeah maybe the answer is more fanguns. apparently there is money in race training.
I hope they have outdone SR. High country is more than 1000' higher elevation than the top of SR, forget about the top of Locke. The snowmaking buid out they did up there also sits ofairly unique high elevation terrain that has been cut basically wide open. Snow you make up there drops on trail and not trees due to that cut. And they have to get a good depth down, as the only lift up there now is a T-Bar on lookers right.
seems like the ideal setup for early season skiing. 400 vert ft served by a t-bar. maybe the size of snowshed but at 4000'. downside is they can't handle the volume in the NR. theoretically they should "win" every season. assuming you take the tecumseh express to get up & down - so no stairs.
It is the ideal setup and not just because of the High Country terrain. If needed they can take a second step down from there with the Northside double before expanding on towards the base . Those North side trails hold snow quite well.

After only skiing WV once since the 80s, I've really enjoyed it the past few seasons I've had the Indy Pass. Very manageable crowds on Saturdays. Only real complaint is they should have gone with a HSQ for the Green Peak expansion. That's a long, slow ride on the old triple they moved over there. The parking setup also kinda sucks.

Lots of potential though if they ever follow through with the village gondola and further terrain expansion on Green.
The Northside double is slated to be removed and not replaced on their master plan. But they had done just that back when they played the early open game for the public. Opened on High Country and added Northside before linking all the way back to base. Green having a HSQ would have been nice, but the FGT helps keep the glades on Green in decent shape. Their HSS will be interesting to see how it ages, being that it is an orphan type of lift now already.
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whatever happened to that currently at 2200...thread??
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machski wrote: Nov 22nd, '24, 09:36
deadheadskier wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 11:18
skiadikt wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 10:24
machski wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:45
skiadikt wrote: Nov 21st, '24, 09:38
impressive indeed. not sure they've outdone what we've done overall including supe, but they've certainly outdone SR. and yeah maybe the answer is more fanguns. apparently there is money in race training.
I hope they have outdone SR. High country is more than 1000' higher elevation than the top of SR, forget about the top of Locke. The snowmaking buid out they did up there also sits ofairly unique high elevation terrain that has been cut basically wide open. Snow you make up there drops on trail and not trees due to that cut. And they have to get a good depth down, as the only lift up there now is a T-Bar on lookers right.
seems like the ideal setup for early season skiing. 400 vert ft served by a t-bar. maybe the size of snowshed but at 4000'. downside is they can't handle the volume in the NR. theoretically they should "win" every season. assuming you take the tecumseh express to get up & down - so no stairs.
It is the ideal setup and not just because of the High Country terrain. If needed they can take a second step down from there with the Northside double before expanding on towards the base . Those North side trails hold snow quite well.

After only skiing WV once since the 80s, I've really enjoyed it the past few seasons I've had the Indy Pass. Very manageable crowds on Saturdays. Only real complaint is they should have gone with a HSQ for the Green Peak expansion. That's a long, slow ride on the old triple they moved over there. The parking setup also kinda sucks.

Lots of potential though if they ever follow through with the village gondola and further terrain expansion on Green.
The Northside double is slated to be removed and not replaced on their master plan. But they had done just that back when they played the early open game for the public. Opened on High Country and added Northside before linking all the way back to base. Green having a HSQ would have been nice, but the FGT helps keep the glades on Green in decent shape. Their HSS will be interesting to see how it ages, being that it is an orphan type of lift now already.
I think removing that Double would be a mistake. I suppose you have Sunnyside as a backup to the 6, but I do like skiing that double when it's open.

Did the manufacturer of that 6 go out of business already? I forget who it was. That's concerning. It has had some degree of reliability issues already.

I don't disagree on keeping traffic down for the glades, but given the glades can be pretty unreliable at WV, I would prefer having the option to do quick groomer laps on Green via a HSQ.
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Their HS6 was built by MND which didn't go defunct but my understanding was they used a licensed Barthelot detachable system, and Leitner-Poma/their parent company has since acquired Barthelot which is probably making things more complicated than they hoped for.
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