Can the Democrat Party be saved?

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Fancypants wrote: Nov 3rd, '21, 20:55
boston_e wrote: Nov 3rd, '21, 12:08
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Nov 3rd, '21, 09:10
throbster wrote: Nov 3rd, '21, 08:34 Unique, since both states are deep blue.
2017 - Trump is POTUS - VA and NJ elects Democrats. Trump lost in 2020.
2008 - Obama is POTUS - VA and NJ elects Republicans. Obama was reelected in 2012.

I don't think there's anything unique about these Governor races. Similarly, I don't expect R's gaining some seats in 2022 to be unique. What would be unique?

D's gaining seats in 2022 (in my lifetime, only GWB saw gains in both the House and Senate during a midterm election)
R's gaining significant number of seats in 2022 (e.g., like we saw in 2010)

Btw, looks like Murphy is reelected.
Nothing would be unique if the republicans gained seats.

Since 1946 the incumbent president's party has lost seats in 17 of the 19 mid term elections. The median loss is something in the neighborhood of 25 seats.
Correct, it is usual for the political party controlling the white house to lose congressional seats in the mid terms. However, in the current political climate it has the makings to be historical in terms of the shift. Politics is a pendulum that wants to swing equally in both directions, when the pendulums' progress is artificially altered it no longer becomes a pendulum and will swing hard and fast in unpredictable directions.
I suppose it seems the swings have been greater in recent years (at least for first term) - D loss of 60 seats in Obamas first term and R lost of 40+ seats in Trump era are certainly the two largest swings that I can remember offhand. As to another direction, are you suggesting a third party will somehow win seats in any significant way? Or are you suggesting that what used to be pendulum swings could be back and forth waves with much larger swings in either direction?
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People just hate Biden and his destructive awful policies
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James Carville believes too much “left-wing nonsense and claptrap” is why his party failed so often in Tuesday’s elections, especially in Virginia.
When asked Wednesday how Terry McAuliffe lost to Glenn Youngkin in a state that President Joe Biden won by over 10 points a year earlier, the long-time Democrat strategist told PBS NewsHour that it was “stupid wokeness” and the overall agenda pushed by progressives.
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Carville, a former Democrat political consultant, continues to be their best critic as he points out how Democrats are screwing up their political future:
What went wrong is this stupid wokeness.

All right? Don't just look at Virginia and New Jersey. Look at Long Island, look at Buffalo, look at Minneapolis. Even look at Seattle, Washington. I mean, this "defund the police" lunacy, this take Abraham Lincoln's name off of schools, that — people see that.

And it's just — really have a suppressive effect all across the country to Democrats. Some of these people need to go to a woke detox center or something. They're expressing language that people just don't use. And there's a backlash and frustration at that.

And you're right. Suburbanites in Northern Virginia, suburbanites in Northern New Jersey pulled away a little bit. Youngkin never ran any ads against Biden. And I think what he did is just let the Democrats pull the pin and watch the grenade go off on them.
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The fact that this even needs to be said at all speaks volumes.
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Mister Moose wrote: Nov 5th, '21, 09:00 The fact that this even needs to be said at all speaks volumes.
Maybe Nikki Haley is on to something? Maybe we do need a cognitive test among members of congress?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1456620468195180549
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MEANWHILE BACK TO REALITY


By Charles Lipson - RCP Contributor
November 08, 2021
John Durham Is Getting Close to the Jugular
(AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

Last week, John Durham’s grand jury issued its third criminal indictment in the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. The person who was arrested may be obscure; the news may have been buried after Virginia’s bombshell election results; but Durham’s move is a big deal. It shows that the special counsel’s probe is methodically unraveling a huge conspiracy, seemingly engineered by Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign and implicating James Comey’s FBI, either as a willing participant or as utterly incompetent boobs.

The latest indictment also damages the mainstream media, which is why so many news outlets have ignored or underplayed it. After all, they broadcast a false story for years and are none too eager to revisit it. Other losers are the prosecutors assembled by Robert Mueller, most of them Democrats, who had reams of this damaging information and ignored it.

What Durham and a few intrepid reporters are uncovering may well be the most ambitious dirty trick pulled in an American election and its aftermath. The question now is whether Durham can expose the full extent of this malfeasance and charge those who planned and executed it.

Durham’s latest indictment charges Igor Danchenko (pictured) with lying multiple times to the FBI. Danchenko, who worked at the Brookings Institution as a Russian expert, may not be a household name, but he was a crucial player in concocting the false story that Donald Trump was collaborating with the Kremlin to win the White House. The real conspiracy, it turns out, was aimed at Trump and was conducted by the Clinton campaign and her longtime associates. It was financed jointly by Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Some leaked emails suggested it was approved by the candidate herself. The FBI continued running with it long after it had ample evidence to know it was a concoction. House Democrats ran with it even longer, basking in fulsome, uncritical media coverage. All of it was false.

The Danchenko indictment matters because his bogus information was the heart of the “Steele dossier,” which, in turn, was the heart of the anti-Trump investigation. The dossier was compiled by a former British spy, Christopher Steele, who had been hired by people working for Clinton. Steele claimed his information about Trump, including salacious sexual allegations, came from Russian sources. It didn’t. It came from Danchenko, who was working at a Washington think tank. As Danchenko admitted to the FBI, much of what he told Steele was old rumors or exaggerations. Some of it appears to have been simply fabricated. Steele incorporated it, and the Democrats deployed it.


Although the dossier was commissioned to sink Trump in November, it was still useful after he won the election. Trump’s adversaries could exploit it to hamstring his embryonic administration, and that’s exactly what they did. With the whole-hearted backing of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff spent three years beating the drum of the “Russia collusion” hoax. Schiff’s constant media appearances claiming he had conclusive evidence of Trump-Russia collaboration continued long after he had received classified briefings that demolished his story. The briefer was former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe, and he has confirmed those meetings with Schiff and his Senate counterpart, Mark Warner. No matter to Schiff, who kept repeating his claims and pursuing his full-scale investigation. First the verdict; then the inquiry. It was all part of a four-year-long battle, first to prevent Trump’s election, then to undermine his presidency, and finally to damage his chances for reelection.



WOW! DEMS THE FILTHY CORRUPT PARTY
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Yup. The Dem party is corrupt to the core and Hillary will rot in hell for this.
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Senator Lahey is not running for re-election. He is currently 81 also....
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48 years in office is wrong. Term limits are badly needed.
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Good news get rid of the deadbeats in our congress
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pj news democrats and Biden weaponizing the FBI

It’s hard to believe that all this is happening in the United States. First, secret police chief Merrick Garland directed the FBI to monitor parents who protested at school board meetings against the imposition of Critical Race Theory (CRT) in schools. Then there was the Justice Department’s raid of the home of Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe because of Ashley Biden’s diary. After that came the arrest of harsh Biden critic Steve Bannon for contempt of Congress, the first such arrest in decades, for his refusal to cooperate with the Democrats’ Jan. 6 pseudo-insurrection show trials.

Then today came news of FBI raids of the homes of Colorado’s Elections Clerk and Rep. Lauren Boebert’s (R-Colo.) campaign manager. It looks as if the Justice Department has become an authoritarian tool of Biden’s handlers in their quest to criminalize dissent from their agenda — and this corruption is advancing so rapidly that even the Washington Post, a reliable mouthpiece of the Deep State, is now wondering if it is all going too far.

When you’re on the left and lose the Post, you’ve really gone too far. It’s abundantly clear at this point that the Post is fully on board with the authoritarian Biden/Garland agenda. Its coverage of the Attorney General siccing the FBI on law-abiding anti-CRT parents included such Orwellian headlines as “Faced with Republican criticism” — which all good Post readers know is something that is always wrongheaded, ill-advised, cynical, opportunistic, and on the wrong side of history — “Attorney General Garland defends school board memo”; “A man gave a Nazi salute at a school board meeting to oppose mask rules. Ted Cruz defended it as a form of protest”; and “Garland asks FBI to address recent ‘disturbing spike’ in threats against educators.” Nonetheless, if you go too far too fast, you risk waking up the sleeping populace, and so the Post is now calling for the Injustice Department to slam on the brakes.
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lying Psaki tweet

Q: Why, when Americans are seeing higher prices, are Republicans united against a bill to lower core costs on prescription drugs, health care, child care, and elder care?

A: They’re rooting for inflation.


dems blaming everyone but themselves
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Kyle Rittenhouse NOT GUILTY


Moron Biden should apologize immediately for slandering his good name.
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