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Posted: Apr 22nd, '06, 10:45
by XtremeJibber2001
Suzy, Suzy Greenberg
Suzy's 'bout as faithful as a slot machine.

yea...haha

Posted: Apr 22nd, '06, 12:14
by BigKahuna13
KBL Ed wrote:
BigKahuna13 wrote:Watching Hamm play classical piano music - both
the rhythm and melody simultaneously - on the electric bass is simply mind boggling.
Wait... huh? He's playing piano and then bass? :?:
No. Let me try again. With piano you play the rhythm part with the left hand and the melody with the right. With any guitar you - in theory - can't do that because you need both hands to play a single note - the right hand to pluck the string and left to press down on the string on the fretboard (if you're right handed). So you need two guitars to play what a single person can do on a piano.

This gentleman, by using a combination of normal playing, tapping, and hammering managed to play both the rhythm and melody on the bass at the
same time.

Now I'm gonna spend the next 5 years trying to learn how to do that.

Posted: Apr 22nd, '06, 14:39
by KBL Ed
BigKahuna13 wrote:Now I'm gonna spend the next 5 years trying to learn how to do that.
LOL. Obsessive much?

I d/l'd some Oysterhead. Um... well, yes they do indeed have a good rhythm section. Just... too many notes! Simplify simplify!

So, yeah, I immediately deleted those tracks. :oops:

Posted: Apr 22nd, '06, 15:23
by picnic
Big Kahuna Playing bass lines and melody on a guitar can be done by one person. Alternating bass, Travis style picking, hybrid picking (think Brad Paisley, Keith Urban, Danny Gatton) are three styles. It's not as full sounding as a piano, but it's two different instruments. Tuck Andress is a jazz player I saw. There was so much going on with his guitar I thought there was another guitarist hidden off stage playing with him.

I don't know the bassists you are referring to, but I've seen Claypool, Kim Stone (Rippingtons) Stanley Clarke just kill the bass on two fronts at the same time. Better start practicing.

Posted: Apr 22nd, '06, 16:46
by johnny the jibber
trey tunes are never simple...

Posted: Apr 22nd, '06, 18:12
by DMC Freeride
BigKahuna13 wrote: This gentleman, by using a combination of normal playing, tapping, and hammering managed to play both the rhythm and melody on the bass at the
same time.

Now I'm gonna spend the next 5 years trying to learn how to do that.
Get yourself a Chapman Stick..
Image
http://www.stick.com/articles/evolution/

Posted: Apr 22nd, '06, 21:09
by XtremeJibber2001
DMC Freeride wrote: Oysterhead is amazing...
TOTALLY forgot about them. Downloading a show now

Posted: Apr 22nd, '06, 21:47
by jenscats5
A friend told me the new Tool album rocks....will have to check it out....

Said the new single Vicarious is awesome.....

Posted: Apr 23rd, '06, 02:15
by BigKahuna13
DMC Freeride wrote:
BigKahuna13 wrote: This gentleman, by using a combination of normal playing, tapping, and hammering managed to play both the rhythm and melody on the bass at the
same time.

Now I'm gonna spend the next 5 years trying to learn how to do that.
Get yourself a Chapman Stick..
Image
http://www.stick.com/articles/evolution/
Then I'd have to try to sound like Tony Levin, and I ain't goin there :)
Would love to get an upright one day though.....

Posted: Apr 23rd, '06, 02:21
by BigKahuna13
picnic wrote:Big Kahuna Playing bass lines and melody on a guitar can be done by one person. Alternating bass, Travis style picking, hybrid picking (think Brad Paisley, Keith Urban, Danny Gatton) are three styles. It's not as full sounding as a piano, but it's two different instruments. Tuck Andress is a jazz player I saw. There was so much going on with his guitar I thought there was another guitarist hidden off stage playing with him.

I don't know the bassists you are referring to, but I've seen Claypool, Kim Stone (Rippingtons) Stanley Clarke just kill the bass on two fronts at the same time. Better start practicing.
What I'm doing right now :).

Claypool and Clarke are both amazing. Check out Hamm or Sheehan - or jazz bassist Jeff Berlin - if you can. All three are taking the instrument in some interesting directions.

Posted: Apr 23rd, '06, 08:13
by DMC Freeride
BigKahuna13 wrote:
DMC Freeride wrote:
BigKahuna13 wrote: This gentleman, by using a combination of normal playing, tapping, and hammering managed to play both the rhythm and melody on the bass at the
same time.

Now I'm gonna spend the next 5 years trying to learn how to do that.
Get yourself a Chapman Stick..
Image
http://www.stick.com/articles/evolution/
Then I'd have to try to sound like Tony Levin, and I ain't goin there :)
Would love to get an upright one day though.....

You get an upright - and play it well - and I've got a band for you.. Would LOVE to get 3 or 4 piece jazz combo together to play the Holidays.. Do Christmas standards in jazz... I bet we could make a killing!

PS: Tony Levin is playing around next June... He's playing in Woodstock June 24th a Bearsville - with a couple the guys from Peter Garbriels group.. It's going to be incredible!

Posted: Apr 23rd, '06, 08:18
by DMC Freeride
BigKahuna13 wrote:
picnic wrote:Big Kahuna Playing bass lines and melody on a guitar can be done by one person. Alternating bass, Travis style picking, hybrid picking (think Brad Paisley, Keith Urban, Danny Gatton) are three styles. It's not as full sounding as a piano, but it's two different instruments. Tuck Andress is a jazz player I saw. There was so much going on with his guitar I thought there was another guitarist hidden off stage playing with him.

I don't know the bassists you are referring to, but I've seen Claypool, Kim Stone (Rippingtons) Stanley Clarke just kill the bass on two fronts at the same time. Better start practicing.
What I'm doing right now :).

Claypool and Clarke are both amazing. Check out Hamm or Sheehan - or jazz bassist Jeff Berlin - if you can. All three are taking the instrument in some interesting directions.
Jeff Berlin is pretty amazing.. Get sought out by both jazz and art rock bands...
Doent he have an all bass band togehter right now with Hamm AND Sheean?

Posted: Apr 23rd, '06, 08:19
by DMC Freeride
jenscats5 wrote:A friend told me the new Tool album rocks....will have to check it out....

Said the new single Vicarious is awesome.....
Tool rocks... Amazing band..
I've heard the new CD is sweet..

Posted: Apr 23rd, '06, 08:32
by BigKahuna13
DMC Freeride wrote:
BigKahuna13 wrote:
picnic wrote:Big Kahuna Playing bass lines and melody on a guitar can be done by one person. Alternating bass, Travis style picking, hybrid picking (think Brad Paisley, Keith Urban, Danny Gatton) are three styles. It's not as full sounding as a piano, but it's two different instruments. Tuck Andress is a jazz player I saw. There was so much going on with his guitar I thought there was another guitarist hidden off stage playing with him.

I don't know the bassists you are referring to, but I've seen Claypool, Kim Stone (Rippingtons) Stanley Clarke just kill the bass on two fronts at the same time. Better start practicing.
What I'm doing right now :).

Claypool and Clarke are both amazing. Check out Hamm or Sheehan - or jazz bassist Jeff Berlin - if you can. All three are taking the instrument in some interesting directions.
Jeff Berlin is pretty amazing.. Get sought out by both jazz and art rock bands...
Doent he have an all bass band togehter right now with Hamm AND Sheean?
Yup. That's who I went to see Friday night - which started this entire digression :). My son liked Berlin's set best, which was interesting considering that jazz is about as far from what he normally listens to - he's a metal head - as you can get. Maybe he's becoming civilized :)

Hey now that I got a job offer, maybe she'll let me get the upright......

(and Jude Gold the guitar player and drummer Jeff Maher weren't too shabby either)

Posted: Apr 23rd, '06, 11:08
by KBL Ed
DMC Freeride wrote:I've heard the new CD is sweet..
It is. I'm spreading it on my toast right now.

:P