SnowyMorning wrote:See the movie, take it with a grain of salt. The evidence is compelling. Review the science. Even if the sun is hotter, then the greenhouse gases are trapping more of its rays. Duh. We are having an impact on the planet.
You're right, we are having an impact on the plant, but please provide a link that directly correlates our existence with the warming we've seen with little to no reservations.
SnowyMorning wrote:This impact is bringing both dramatic drought and dramatic precipitation. Why do you think the polar bears are drowning or that a piece of ice 11,000 footballs fields big broke off the polar ice cap. Keep your head in the sand if you want. Besides you probably won't be around to see the potential devastation. But if you have any kids -- they will, if you care you'd not be so cavalier.
I agree that the Global Warming issue is bringing a lot of intense and extreme weather events for both of our coasts, not to mention the polar ice caps and the effects on glaciers globally. However, please provide a link that directly links our existence to these "catastrophes".
SnowyMorning wrote:"As Gore convincingly shows, the trend lines are ominous. In the 650,000 years before the advent of industrialization, carbon dioxide levels in Earth's atmosphere never topped 300 parts per million. In 1958, an observatory recorded levels of about 310 parts per million; by 2005, that was up to 380. Within 45 years, carbon dioxide levels are projected to hit 600. These trends fit inside graphs of global temperature like a hand inside a glove,"
from http://www.climatecrisiscoalition.org/W ... 28-06.html
This is frightening. You're citing Al Gore as an authority on Global Warming. He has significant benefit in proving that we are the direct cause of Global Warming. I'm all for looking at the science, but I'm not searching out politicians to be the authority on Global Warming.
OK, you (and Gore) finally have a point. While the point is being generated by an "educated guess"; nonetheless, it's better then hearing about Manhattan being underwater in 45 years.
Carbon Dioxide levels have risen (approximately) 26% since 1958 (49 Years). How did Gore and company conclude that we will see nearly a 100% rise in Carbon Dioxide levels over the same amount of years (49) that we only saw a 26% rise? Furthermore, where is the data that directly links this increase in Carbon Dioxide to Global Warming? Lastly, what amount of this increase is reversible by man?
SnowyMorning wrote:
This is a great graph, but without a correlation between what it shows and Global Warming, it merely shows an increase in Carbon Dioxide. I say "so what", what does this mean to me? Did we directly cause this increase? What (if anything) can we do to change this increase? And is this the main direct cause of Global Warming, if so, do you have a link showing this?[/quote]
I don't believe Global Warming is a liberal/democrat/'call it what you will' "conspiracy". However, I'm not going to watch some movie and take it as "the end all, be all" like some have.
I've asked many questions and I'm curious if one of the "We're causing Global Warming and if we're not fcuked, then our kids are if we don't start doing something about it" can provide some clear-cut data directly correlating our existence (with no reservations) to Global Warming.
If politicians/scientists want me and other skeptics to favor legislation to control Global Warming ... you need to show us the data that's inconclusive, not some politically motivated movie.
Until I read conclusive data, I remain a skeptic of the role we directly play in Global Warming.
