Umm, yeah. 192cm M777's with a Vist V13 plate and S916's. Plus an "aerodynamic" outfit. I started at the top of the main pitch, after the rollover (so I could see the trail was empty), and made about 6 turns down the face. I was easily going 100 ft/sec, or roughly 70+ mph....about 1500 ft of trail in ~15 seconds.summitchallenger wrote::lol: Riiiggghhhttt...Highway Star wrote:I hit around 70+ mph on Double Dipper......... :twisted:Geoff wrote:Personally, I stayed off lower Ovation last weekend. Superstar, Double Dipper, and OL were fine. There were a number of people out on race stock who were treating them as a Super G course. I'm lacking the equipment, technique, and testicles to ski that terrain at that kind of speed. I don't have that kind of edge grip skiing on 86mm-waist all mountain skis.
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After the last ice storm, almost nothing that has not been groomed is skiable whether you are an expert or not. Maybe Skiingsnow can take a picture to show you how shiny those ungroomed bumps are.TheLurker wrote:A double diamond really shouldn't be groomed. That would keep all the people without enough skills off the trail and hinder the death slides discussed on this board.SkiDork wrote:the moguls were the deadly part, not the groomed. I looked up at that and just cringed...


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This is Skiing Snow's picture of Upper Bear Claw on Saturday. It is pretty indicative of what most ungroomed trails looked like.tyrolean_skier wrote:After the last ice storm, almost nothing that has not been groomed is skiable whether you are an expert or not. Maybe Skiingsnow can take a picture to show you how shiny those ungroomed bumps are.TheLurker wrote:A double diamond really shouldn't be groomed. That would keep all the people without enough skills off the trail and hinder the death slides discussed on this board.SkiDork wrote:the moguls were the deadly part, not the groomed. I looked up at that and just cringed...


so, is it the skis or the skier responsible for these Mach velocities?Highway Star wrote:Umm, yeah. 192cm M777's with a Vist V13 plate and S916's. Plus an "aerodynamic" outfit. I started at the top of the main pitch, after the rollover (so I could see the trail was empty), and made about 6 turns down the face. I was easily going 100 ft/sec, or roughly 70+ mph....about 1500 ft of trail in ~15 seconds.summitchallenger wrote:Highway Star wrote:I hit around 70+ mph on Double Dipper.........Geoff wrote:Personally, I stayed off lower Ovation last weekend. Superstar, Double Dipper, and OL were fine. There were a number of people out on race stock who were treating them as a Super G course. I'm lacking the equipment, technique, and testicles to ski that terrain at that kind of speed. I don't have that kind of edge grip skiing on 86mm-waist all mountain skis.Riiiggghhhttt...
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That trail looked exactly the same today. It has not been groomed at all.Ski-N-Sail wrote:This is Skiing Snow's picture of Upper Bear Claw on Saturday. It is pretty indicative of what most ungroomed trails looked like.tyrolean_skier wrote:After the last ice storm, almost nothing that has not been groomed is skiable whether you are an expert or not. Maybe Skiingsnow can take a picture to show you how shiny those ungroomed bumps are.TheLurker wrote:A double diamond really shouldn't be groomed. That would keep all the people without enough skills off the trail and hinder the death slides discussed on this board.SkiDork wrote:the moguls were the deadly part, not the groomed. I looked up at that and just cringed...


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My son and I went to Belleyre with the Boy Scouts troop 2 weeks ago. A Dbl Diamond there is like a like any Blue trail at Killington. I am sure that some of these of people get in over their heads with knowing it and then it's to late.
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The girl that knocked down my friend and her son when she was sliding down OL definitely should not have been skiing OL. I saw her later on another Bear trail and she was snow plowing her way down.nopowdr wrote:My son and I went to Belleyre with the Boy Scouts troop 2 weeks ago. A Dbl Diamond there is like a like any Blue trail at Killington. I am sure that some of these of people get in over their heads with knowing it and then it's to late.
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I don't know about 70+ but there were 4 or 5 different people I saw on Double Dipper skiing it at very high speed. I don't have the reference to be able to judge the speed but I'd believe people were hitting 50. I'm not sure I remember seeing anybody on a pair of Yugoslavian 2x4s.Highway Star wrote:Umm, yeah. 192cm M777's with a Vist V13 plate and S916's. Plus an "aerodynamic" outfit. I started at the top of the main pitch, after the rollover (so I could see the trail was empty), and made about 6 turns down the face. I was easily going 100 ft/sec, or roughly 70+ mph....about 1500 ft of trail in ~15 seconds.summitchallenger wrote:Highway Star wrote:I hit around 70+ mph on Double Dipper.........Geoff wrote:Personally, I stayed off lower Ovation last weekend. Superstar, Double Dipper, and OL were fine. There were a number of people out on race stock who were treating them as a Super G course. I'm lacking the equipment, technique, and testicles to ski that terrain at that kind of speed. I don't have that kind of edge grip skiing on 86mm-waist all mountain skis.Riiiggghhhttt...

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You would not have missed me...Geoff wrote:I don't know about 70+ but there were 4 or 5 different people I saw on Double Dipper skiing it at very high speed. I don't have the reference to be able to judge the speed but I'd believe people were hitting 50. I'm not sure I remember seeing anybody on a pair of Yugoslavian 2x4s.Highway Star wrote:Umm, yeah. 192cm M777's with a Vist V13 plate and S916's. Plus an "aerodynamic" outfit. I started at the top of the main pitch, after the rollover (so I could see the trail was empty), and made about 6 turns down the face. I was easily going 100 ft/sec, or roughly 70+ mph....about 1500 ft of trail in ~15 seconds.summitchallenger wrote:Highway Star wrote:I hit around 70+ mph on Double Dipper.........Geoff wrote:Personally, I stayed off lower Ovation last weekend. Superstar, Double Dipper, and OL were fine. There were a number of people out on race stock who were treating them as a Super G course. I'm lacking the equipment, technique, and testicles to ski that terrain at that kind of speed. I don't have that kind of edge grip skiing on 86mm-waist all mountain skis.Riiiggghhhttt...

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Was gonna say...45-50 yes. 70 no.Geoff wrote:I don't know about 70+ but there were 4 or 5 different people I saw on Double Dipper skiing it at very high speed. I don't have the reference to be able to judge the speed but I'd believe people were hitting 50. I'm not sure I remember seeing anybody on a pair of Yugoslavian 2x4s.Highway Star wrote:Umm, yeah. 192cm M777's with a Vist V13 plate and S916's. Plus an "aerodynamic" outfit. I started at the top of the main pitch, after the rollover (so I could see the trail was empty), and made about 6 turns down the face. I was easily going 100 ft/sec, or roughly 70+ mph....about 1500 ft of trail in ~15 seconds.summitchallenger wrote:Highway Star wrote:I hit around 70+ mph on Double Dipper.........Geoff wrote:Personally, I stayed off lower Ovation last weekend. Superstar, Double Dipper, and OL were fine. There were a number of people out on race stock who were treating them as a Super G course. I'm lacking the equipment, technique, and testicles to ski that terrain at that kind of speed. I don't have that kind of edge grip skiing on 86mm-waist all mountain skis.Riiiggghhhttt...
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