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Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 08:32
by JerseyGuy
skiingsnow wrote:
icedtea wrote:SS - did you see the part on the website saying "Some people are saying we are the new King of Spring"

or something to that nature. you cannot deny that that is a direct knock on k.
Yeah, that one is, but this one is a knock on the other competitors.
You, sir, are an idiot. There's nothing more to say...

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 08:35
by skiingsnow
JerseyGuy wrote:
skiingsnow wrote:
icedtea wrote:SS - did you see the part on the website saying "Some people are saying we are the new King of Spring"

or something to that nature. you cannot deny that that is a direct knock on k.
Yeah, that one is, but this one is a knock on the other competitors.
You, sir, are an idiot. There's nothing more to say...
Please explain. Are you saying that the comments, " Why boast more snow than the Bush if you weren't open ALL this past week?" were someway, somehow directed at K, although it would make no sense, as it has nothing to do with Killington?

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 08:38
by JerseyGuy
skiingsnow wrote:
JerseyGuy wrote:
skiingsnow wrote:
icedtea wrote:SS - did you see the part on the website saying "Some people are saying we are the new King of Spring"

or something to that nature. you cannot deny that that is a direct knock on k.
Yeah, that one is, but this one is a knock on the other competitors.
You, sir, are an idiot. There's nothing more to say...
Please explain. Are you saying that the comments, " Why boast more snow than the Bush if you weren't open ALL this past week?" were someway, somehow directed at K, although it would make no sense, as it has nothing to do with Killington?
No, I already thought you were an idiot before I even read this post.

I just felt like sharing.

Do you have any friends? In real life, I mean?

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 08:45
by Geoff
madvillain wrote:The message says it all 8)

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Powdr execs are probably shi*ting their pants right now
No. The Killington upper management is going to toe the company line even though the troops in their employee base are well-aware that they are doing something stupid.

All is well and we are sticking to our plan. We open mid-November. We close mid-April. That's when $80 day ticket and full price lift+lodging people show up. We do not care about the fraction of season pass holders who want to ski in October and May. We do not care that we hurt access road businesses and the property prices for vacation homes with our shortened season. We are the elephant and those little birds that own businesses on the access road are eating the bugs off our back. We don't care that we are operating a business on state land. We don't care that we need local and state approval to build any real estate project. We are from Utah and Oregon and know better than backwards Vermonters or east coast city people. You have money. You will give it to us.

A bull in the china shop.

From a business point of view, I think they're making a big mistake:
Goodwill is seen as an intangible asset on the balance sheet because it is not a physical asset such as buildings and equipment. Goodwill typically reflects the value of intangible assets such as a strong brand name, good customer relations, good employee relations and any patents or proprietary technology.

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 08:52
by Geoff
JerseyGuy wrote:
skiingsnow wrote:
icedtea wrote:SS - did you see the part on the website saying "Some people are saying we are the new King of Spring"

or something to that nature. you cannot deny that that is a direct knock on k.
Yeah, that one is, but this one is a knock on the other competitors.
You, sir, are an idiot. There's nothing more to say...
Actually, I think this was more a shot at Stowe than Killington. Stowe was the place that got all the natural snow this winter and shut the doors on April 20th. I don't think you've seen the Killington jabs yet. If Win manages to keep Stein's open for next weekend and can push around enough snow to have an easier way down Spring Fling, you'll see the Killington assault in a few days.

By the way, I had a number of Mad River people smugly tell me that they operated until 4:30 on closing day just to say they stayed open 30 minutes longer than Killington.

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 08:58
by b-5
skiingsnow wrote:
RedRider wrote:
madvillain wrote:The message says it all 8)

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Powdr execs are probably shi*ting their pants right now
Holy sh*t!
Is this one real?
If so, K-Mart just got SLAMMED !
(And they deserve it )
Shame Shame Shame
This message has nothing to do with K, K has been reporting 0 inches of snow this past week...

This message has to do with 1) Jay Peak, and how they flaunt their huge seasonal snowfall yet were closed the entire week and only reopening for the weekend, and 2) Mount Snow, and how they have been flaunting the edge to edge deep coverage by their fanguns, and yet remained closed the entire week and are also only reopening for the weekend.

It has nothing to do with Killington, K has reported fewer inches of snow this season, and has been closed reporting 0", where as other resorts were closed midweek this week, and yet still talkin about all their snow.
Right-on-Right-onn-Right-onnn-Right-Onnnn-Right on-Right-on-Right-onnnnnn-Righ-ton-Right-oon-Right-OOOn-Right-on-Right-on.....dont mind me i am practicing 4 when obama comes back 2 VT 2 ski

Skippy buy my tee-shirts they will get you SEX!
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Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 09:10
by ozzy
Geoff wrote:
By the way, I had a number of Mad River people smugly tell me that they operated until 4:30 on closing day just to say they stayed open 30 minutes longer than Killington.
Did they also mention that MRG had been operating daily until 4:30 for the past few weeks or so.

wasn't like they decided to ski until 4:30 on sunday april 20 to beat Killington by a half hour

my gawd, step out of the zone i sound like skippy... nah, powder still sucks nuts.

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 09:12
by Stormchaser
ozzy wrote:
Geoff wrote:
By the way, I had a number of Mad River people smugly tell me that they operated until 4:30 on closing day just to say they stayed open 30 minutes longer than Killington.
Did they also mention that MRG had been operating daily until 4:30 for the past few weeks or so.

wasn't like they decided to ski until 4:30 on sunday april 20 to beat Killington by a half hour

my gawd, step out of the zone i sound like skippy... nah, powder still sucks nuts.
MRG starts a half hour later and runs the lifts a half hour later in the spring. It wasnt just to beat K...

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Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 09:24
by biged
Geoff wrote:
JerseyGuy wrote:
skiingsnow wrote:
icedtea wrote:SS - did you see the part on the website saying "Some people are saying we are the new King of Spring"

or something to that nature. you cannot deny that that is a direct knock on k.
Yeah, that one is, but this one is a knock on the other competitors.
You, sir, are an idiot. There's nothing more to say...
Actually, I think this was more a shot at Stowe than Killington. Stowe was the place that got all the natural snow this winter and shut the doors on April 20th. I don't think you've seen the Killington jabs yet. If Win manages to keep Stein's open for next weekend and can push around enough snow to have an easier way down Spring Fling, you'll see the Killington assault in a few days.

By the way, I had a number of Mad River people smugly tell me that they operated until 4:30 on closing day just to say they stayed open 30 minutes longer than Killington.
MRG loading a chair later in the year then Killington.
The people at MRG are about skiing.
The new management at Killington, balance sheet bean pushers who can not even ski all of the trails at Killington.

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 10:58
by since1961
skiingsnow wrote:
since1961 wrote:SS - I understand your need to spin this as best as possible but if the "King of Spring" kmart has been proclaiming had to do with size then wouldn't kmart be the "king of winter"? Appears your manure spreader is working fine down there. :lol:
Thats exactly my point, it has nothing to do with size.
That's the bummer and the point your missing ...at the moment it seems that's all kmart got going for it...to be successful ya need much, much more than just size.

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 13:18
by 355inchesofnaturalsnow
I think Skippy is probably right here in that Sugarbush was (confusingly/obliquely) banging on the fact that we get more snow that they do but didn't run midweek. Nice work Skip.
Geoff wrote:
madvillain wrote:The message says it all 8)

Image

Powdr execs are probably shi*ting their pants right now
No. The Killington upper management is going to toe the company line even though the troops in their employee base are well-aware that they are doing something stupid.

All is well and we are sticking to our plan. We open mid-November. We close mid-April. That's when $80 day ticket and full price lift+lodging people show up. We do not care about the fraction of season pass holders who want to ski in October and May. We do not care that we hurt access road businesses and the property prices for vacation homes with our shortened season. We are the elephant and those little birds that own businesses on the access road are eating the bugs off our back. We don't care that we are operating a business on state land. We don't care that we need local and state approval to build any real estate project. We are from Utah and Oregon and know better than backwards Vermonters or east coast city people. You have money. You will give it to us.

A bull in the china shop.

From a business point of view, I think they're making a big mistake:
Goodwill is seen as an intangible asset on the balance sheet because it is not a physical asset such as buildings and equipment. Goodwill typically reflects the value of intangible assets such as a strong brand name, good customer relations, good employee relations and any patents or proprietary technology.

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 13:19
by skiingsnow
since1961 wrote:
skiingsnow wrote:
since1961 wrote:SS - I understand your need to spin this as best as possible but if the "King of Spring" kmart has been proclaiming had to do with size then wouldn't kmart be the "king of winter"? Appears your manure spreader is working fine down there. :lol:
Thats exactly my point, it has nothing to do with size.
That's the bummer and the point your missing ...at the moment it seems that's all kmart got going for it...to be successful ya need much, much more than just size.
Most Snowmaking, Most Grooming, Most Lifts, Over 100 Bars/Restaurants, All Spread Out Among Many Uncrowded Mountains

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 13:23
by skiingsnow
355inchesofnaturalsnow wrote:I think Skippy is probably right here in that Sugarbush was (confusingly/obliquely) banging on the fact that we get more snow that they do but didn't run midweek. Nice work Skip.

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Thanks. I actually think you guys are all right. . . I'm not saying I like Jay, but I certainly dont hate them like before....

I liked Sugarbush before, but, now, eh, they on naughty list.

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 13:31
by johnny the jibber
skiingsnow wrote:
since1961 wrote:
skiingsnow wrote:
since1961 wrote:SS - I understand your need to spin this as best as possible but if the "King of Spring" kmart has been proclaiming had to do with size then wouldn't kmart be the "king of winter"? Appears your manure spreader is working fine down there. :lol:
Thats exactly my point, it has nothing to do with size.
That's the bummer and the point your missing ...at the moment it seems that's all kmart got going for it...to be successful ya need much, much more than just size.
Most Snowmaking, Most Grooming, Most Lifts, Over 100 Bars/Restaurants, All Spread Out Among Many Uncrowded Mountains
you understand that all you mentioned is absolutely worthless without skiers and riders coming here. those 100 bars and restaurants you mention, but know nothing about, have been f*** by powdr by closing down early and excellent non marketing strategies through out the season, but yeah, powdr needs your money worse than you do. if your giving donations, come find me, i could use all the money your handing out...no people=no business=out of business...

Posted: Apr 28th, '08, 13:37
by JerseyGuy
Am I mistaken, or are we all talking about two different things, here?

I'm looking at the first post on this thread -- the one that showed the picture of a skier and the headline "Find Out Why Some Are Calling Us The King Of Spring".

We all do agree that that was a direct and successful slam on Killington, correct? Is there another mountain that's gone around calling itself the "King of Spring", and I just haven't noticed?

Some other folks have talked about a different interior message; I'm really only concerned with that headline.

By the way, Skippy's still an idiot. One congratulatory post from Steve and suddenly Jay Peak, the Skipnoser's Public Enemy #1, is now "alright"? And now Sugarbush is on his "naughty list"? Good God, Skip, do you think they care?

Who else thinks that Skippy's daddy didn't buy him enough ice cream cones when he was growing up?