Bubba wrote:Which is why I haven't suggested going back to marketing a "ski week". People will more often than not fly out west if they want the full week. I'm just suggesting ways to increase Friday and Monday business along with gaining extra lodging/food/drink nights.
I don't know what the answer is but I definitely don't think it's Snoop Dog.
Well, Mel Torme and Bing Crosby are both dead and Bob Hope is also clearly unavailable. I'm not a Snoop Dog fan either but he's just one of many "name" entertainers that could be booked.
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BoozeTan wrote:Someone mentioned the yurt dining..i would def love to try that but not at $120 per person...no f*** way
"Looking for a unique dining adventure while staying here at Killington? Start your evening with a snowcat driven sleigh ride to the remote location of the hand-crafted Ledgewood Yurt. Your 5-course dining experience at the Yurt will provide an unsurpassed mountain resort vacation experience. Plus, with the purchase of this package, you'll receive a code to save 15% off your Ledgewood Yurt reservation. Please see Activities / Dining options for more information and Yurt schedule."
BoozeTan wrote:Someone mentioned the yurt dining..i would def love to try that but not at $120 per person...no f*** way
"Looking for a unique dining adventure while staying here at Killington? Start your evening with a snowcat driven sleigh ride to the remote location of the hand-crafted Ledgewood Yurt. Your 5-course dining experience at the Yurt will provide an unsurpassed mountain resort vacation experience. Plus, with the purchase of this package, you'll receive a code to save 15% off your Ledgewood Yurt reservation. Please see Activities / Dining options for more information and Yurt schedule."
Size will bring people here. Vail, Breck, Whistler, even old K- some of the largest and most popular ski resorts in North America. People go to those places because when you look at a trail map, you see a huge amount of acreage. People come to ski different trails each day. With lift ride times cut in half, mid-week lines non-existent, and K losing 1 1/2 trail pods, people do not need a week to ski here. Now if the Interconnect happens, size wouldn't be an issue...
Non-skiing activities come second. I always look at a trail map, not nightlife, when considering skiing a resort for the first time. Size is the only way to get people here mid-week. Sorry K, but you've lost "The Largest Resort on the East Coast" title to Sugarloaf. Let's see how they do in the next few years...
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Bubba wrote:Which is why I haven't suggested going back to marketing a "ski week". People will more often than not fly out west if they want the full week. I'm just suggesting ways to increase Friday and Monday business along with gaining extra lodging/food/drink nights.
I don't know what the answer is but I definitely don't think it's Snoop Dog.
Well, Mel Torme and Bing Crosby are both dead and Bob Hope is also clearly unavailable. I'm not a Snoop Dog fan either but he's just one of many "name" entertainers that could be booked.
Yes but I bet if they brought in Joey Heatherton. Jill St John & Ann Margret to shake their booty's every grey haired old f%#k that ski's K midweek would be there.
Bubba wrote:Look, I like an empty weekday ski experience as well, but they're running a business. Don't complain about certain lifts not running midweek if nobody is there to ride them.
More like nobodys comes because there is nothing to ride.
Having once been part of the demographic you seem to be looking for, I would have to say this state of affairs is a deal killer.
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An obvious aspect to the decline of the "ski week" vacations among families, especially among people who don't get every single deal email from Killington, or other places, is price.
I just picked the last week in January for an example, with the 3-4 day Midweek package. Trail Creek is $230 a night for a 2 bdrm, or $717 in lodging costs alone for 3 nights. 3 days of skiing is another $156 per person ($120 kids) in lift tickets for. 3 days of rentals is another $89 per person ($65 kids).
So for your hypothetical family of 4 to go skiing for 3 days, it'll run you: $1600 before gas or food. We'll call it an even $2000 with gas to get here from NYC and eating very cheaply. That sort of price isn't something most people can afford, especially multiple times a year.
And if you aren't staying long enough for a package (as I often don't), rates are even more insane, the lodging is much more expensive as are the tickets.
Let's be HONEST. The nightlife as a midweek attraction thing WON'T work, unless you get TONS of people to show up (and that isn't happening for anytime in the foreseeable future - holiday weeks excluded) since how much "fun" the the nightlife in any place if it's only 25-30% full tops vs. when it's jam packed?? If they're looking for nightlife that midweek customer is more likely to make it a day trip and head back to their favorite local bar where they live and be with a 25-30% bar full of people they know than pay extra to stay over at K
Until the airlines make it almost impossible to find a round trip ticket from an East Coast airport to a Western gateway airport for less than $500 AND Western lodging becomes WAY more expensive than Eastern lodging, the East Coast midweek, non holiday business is going to be light when you factor in all the extra acres and usually better snow than a Western resort offers vs. an Eastern resort
I'm not a Snoop Dog fan either but he's just one of many "name" entertainers that could be booked.
