Large condo fire in Killington

[Finn]

From the Rutland Hearld mutual aid was: Bridgewater, Plymouth, Pittsfield, Rutland town, Rutland city, Clarendon.
There may have been more, but I am sure you can check the Rutland Hearld on line.

Also they were there all night while most of us were sleeping. We could see the smoke and the flames shutting in the air from the bottom of rte. 4. I saw the fire trucks there Saturday am when I went skiing. However, I do not know when the lower access road opened for traffic later in the day.

Mister Moose thank you for the photos and detailed first reports as you were there on the scene.
Yes if there was more water available maybe they could have saved the buildings.

I am glad that the fire didn't spread to other homes or the trees and that no one was injured getting out of the building.
A few friends just off West Hill road said they could see the fire through the woods. Also embers and soot was flying into their back yards early sat am from the fire.

[steamboat1]

Killington Town Houses may have been built before sprinklers were required, so I am guessing that did not have a sprinkler system.
Most of the newer buildings are required to have sprinklers.

Our lodge was built in 1879. We have a sprinkler system throughout the house with at least one sprinkler head in every room, larger rooms two. I'm talking about 25 rooms.

[SnoBrdr]

Killington Town Houses may have been built before sprinklers were required, so I am guessing that did not have a sprinkler system.
Most of the newer buildings are required to have sprinklers.

Our lodge was built in 1879. We have a sprinkler system throughout the house with at least one sprinkler in every room, larger rooms two. I'm talking about 25 rooms.

Maybe the Fire Marshall was able to order you as it's considered a commercial building as opposed to condos.

[Humpty Dumpty]

Helment Cam......
K's volunteer fire department meets on Tuesday night's. New volunteers are always welcome.
So you can just show up at the fire department and tell them how you feel, since you seem to have too much to say about everything.

So Finn, I can show up at the firehouse and tell them that I want to feel you bulbous buttocks with two hands and maybe give you a spanking? Because, that's how I feel.

[Finn]

It looks like the Killington Town houses on Innsbrook Lane were built before 1985, as in the Rutland Hearld it mentioned that a family from Mass had rented the some timeshare since 1985. So I guess there were not any sprinklers.

[steamboat1]

Killington Town Houses may have been built before sprinklers were required, so I am guessing that did not have a sprinkler system.
Most of the newer buildings are required to have sprinklers.

Our lodge was built in 1879. We have a sprinkler system throughout the house with at least one sprinkler in every room, larger rooms two. I'm talking about 25 rooms.

Maybe the Fire Marshall was able to order you as it's considered a commercial building as opposed to condos.

Nope, it's owned, not leased, by a ski club which is considered a private residence. I know of other ski clubs around VT. that were forced to do the same thing.

I know of a few drinking establishments along the K access road that were forced to also. One chimed in here the last time I talked about this. His bill was even larger.

Why should older condo complexes be exempt? Like I said our lodge was built in 1879, I think 1985 was a little after that.

[Humpty Dumpty]

So in closing, shut the fvck up. They did the best they could with the resources at hand. If you want them to improve, make the commitment yourself jackass. It's up to around 140 hours of initial training. http://www.volunteerfd.org/become-a-vol ... irefighter.

For those ready to criticize K's volunteer fire departments response tot his then it is YOUR TIME TO STEP UP AND VOLUNTEER.

Get a room you two!

Ha! Ha! We already have, many times.

[freeski]

Here's the article Finn referenced. They had around 9 tankers shuttling water according to the chief. It was called in as a chimney fire and looks like it spread very fast. Just glad no people including firefighters were hurt. Just one of those situations where they did all they could; the fire just had too big of a jump, the water shortage and cold didn't help.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20 ... /1001/NEWS" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Big Bob]

One would only hope that the Town of Killington will take a hard look at requiring any new large developments to have an adequate system for supplying water in place in case of a fire and possibly look at least installing cisterns or fire ponds with dry hydrants scattered around town. I am sure some already exist, but additional ones may be beneficial. The fire department can only be as good as the tools that are provided to it to work with. Being volunteers, I am sure few if any spent the night at the fire house. My guess would be it took at least 10 minutes for the first truck to arrive at the scene. Sprinklers would of already put the fire out in most cases. If it was a chimney fire, I doubt a sprinkler head would of been installed in the chimney chase. Buildings can be rebuilt, but lost lives cannot be replaced. At least no one was injured or killed.

[steamboat1]

One would only hope that the Town of Killington will take a hard look at requiring any new large developments to have an adequate system for supplying water in place in case of a fire and possibly look at least installing cisterns or fire ponds with dry hydrants scattered around town. I am sure some already exist, but additional ones may be beneficial. The fire department can only be as good as the tools that are provided to it to work with. Being volunteers, I am sure few if any spent the night at the fire house. My guess would be it took at least 10 minutes for the first truck to arrive at the scene. Sprinklers would of already put the fire out in most cases. If it was a chimney fire, I doubt a sprinkler head would of been installed in the chimney chase. Buildings can be rebuilt, but lost lives cannot be replaced. At least no one was injured or killed.

Well said.

[freeski]

One would only hope that the Town of Killington will take a hard look at requiring any new large developments to have an adequate system for supplying water in place in case of a fire and possibly look at least installing cisterns or fire ponds with dry hydrants scattered around town. I am sure some already exist, but additional ones may be beneficial. The fire department can only be as good as the tools that are provided to it to work with. Being volunteers, I am sure few if any spent the night at the fire house. My guess would be it took at least 10 minutes for the first truck to arrive at the scene. Sprinklers would of already put the fire out in most cases. If it was a chimney fire, I doubt a sprinkler head would of been installed in the chimney chase. Buildings can be rebuilt, but lost lives cannot be replaced. At least no one was injured or killed.

Well said.

Yes, hopefully Killington (town) learns from this. The fire started around 11:30 while many were still awake. A couple of hours later the fire could have claimed lives.

[Humpty Dumpty]

Here's the article Finn referenced. They had around 9 tankers shuttling water according to the chief. It was called in as chimney fire and looks like it spread very fast. Just glad no people including firefighters were hurt. Just one of those situations were they did all they could; the fire just had too big of a jump, the water shortage and cold didn't help.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20 ... /1001/NEWS" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hmmm? Where's Mr. Moose and his pontification now?

I know. Tail between his legs hiding under the deck.

[SnoBrdr]

One would only hope that the Town of Killington will take a hard look at requiring any new large developments to have an adequate system for supplying water in place in case of a fire and possibly look at least installing cisterns or fire ponds with dry hydrants scattered around town. I am sure some already exist, but additional ones may be beneficial. The fire department can only be as good as the tools that are provided to it to work with. Being volunteers, I am sure few if any spent the night at the fire house. My guess would be it took at least 10 minutes for the first truck to arrive at the scene. Sprinklers would of already put the fire out in most cases. If it was a chimney fire, I doubt a sprinkler head would of been installed in the chimney chase. Buildings can be rebuilt, but lost lives cannot be replaced. At least no one was injured or killed.

I've never fought a fire on land so I need to ask this question.

How do you use a fire pond in the middle of the winter? Are they kept so they don't freeze ?

There was recently a fire at Stratton that they say was quickly put out by their sprinklers.

http://www.manchesterjournal.com/ci_275 ... ses-damage

[Big Bob]

One would only hope that the Town of Killington will take a hard look at requiring any new large developments to have an adequate system for supplying water in place in case of a fire and possibly look at least installing cisterns or fire ponds with dry hydrants scattered around town. I am sure some already exist, but additional ones may be beneficial. The fire department can only be as good as the tools that are provided to it to work with. Being volunteers, I am sure few if any spent the night at the fire house. My guess would be it took at least 10 minutes for the first truck to arrive at the scene. Sprinklers would of already put the fire out in most cases. If it was a chimney fire, I doubt a sprinkler head would of been installed in the chimney chase. Buildings can be rebuilt, but lost lives cannot be replaced. At least no one was injured or killed.

I've never fought a fire on land so I need to ask this question.

How do you use a fire pond in the middle of the winter? Are they kept so they don't freeze ?

There was recently a fire at Stratton that they say was quickly put out by their sprinklers.

http://www.manchesterjournal.com/ci_275 ... ses-damage

Dry hydrants are a vertical standpipe that goes below frost and the ice in the pond. Water is not drawn up till a fire pumper hooks up to it and sucks the water up. My towns fire department practices at the one in front of my house. They do sometimes have trouble drawing water during practice.

[Dr. NO]

Question to anyone with a sprinkler system installed. What is your water source for the system. I know in the castle in CT, Gillette, fire was a worry since it is isolated. Gillette had a system installed and a water tank on the upper floor holding several hundred gallons of water. If you supply a system off a well(s) and lose power or can't pump enough water it would be useless. Anyone know how it is set up?