I agree and really wouldn't care.....BUT I get drug tested all the time at work, so I would back into the corner.KrisSkis wrote:I would decline graciously...i would hope they wouldnt light up if my kids were in the gondie.
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uh, what was the question?
Seriuosly, I would share my stash, but if theres kids in the gondie, Im not gonna light up. I would just have a seat on the side of the trail. I usually ride the singles line and try to scout out the smokers. Its fun to jump in with them and see the look on their face, like damn, now we cant smoke....then I bust it out and see the relief on their faces...its pretty funny. one time we asked if anyone minded, one guy was like "ya I cant smoke, I dont mind if you do, but can you close the windows first"
Seriuosly, I would share my stash, but if theres kids in the gondie, Im not gonna light up. I would just have a seat on the side of the trail. I usually ride the singles line and try to scout out the smokers. Its fun to jump in with them and see the look on their face, like damn, now we cant smoke....then I bust it out and see the relief on their faces...its pretty funny. one time we asked if anyone minded, one guy was like "ya I cant smoke, I dont mind if you do, but can you close the windows first"
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I ski after smoking all the time, it seems to not give my legs more strength, but numbs the pain so I can ski through it, bein I ski mostly on weekends, I dont get much chance on the gondie, so if it is to windy to smoke on a lift, I normally find a nice sheltered spot in the woods to hang out and toke.
Decline.
Not that I would care one way or the other. My experience is that it makes me feel not so good, so I would probably make them put it away. Every time I have given it a shot I'd end up going straight to bed.
However, I doubt they would light up in my presence (much less offer me some) - many people think I am a cop when they meet me, even actual cops.
Not that I would care one way or the other. My experience is that it makes me feel not so good, so I would probably make them put it away. Every time I have given it a shot I'd end up going straight to bed.
However, I doubt they would light up in my presence (much less offer me some) - many people think I am a cop when they meet me, even actual cops.
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was there another guy and girl on the lift? we ran into a friend and got on the gondi- tried to be alone, but someone got on with us. friend asked him if he was a cop. wonder if that was you!BigKahuna13 wrote:Decline but post no opposition provided my daughter wasn't present. Son's been to concerts before and is familiar with the odor......
Brings up a question. Was on the K1 2 weekends ago and some guy gets on and asks if I'm a cop. I respond in the negative and he asks if I mind that he lights up. I didn't, but it got me to wondering exactly why he bothered to ask the question. Even if I was a cop, I don't think I can arrest him unless I'm a Vermont cop (not sure about that but will ask my brother the retired NYC cop), but assuming I could, what's to stop me, other than killing my ski day, from answering no (I mean really why else would the guy ask??) and then just arresting him when he lit up.
i prefer to do my partying after skiing i like to be focused on the slopes.
it is better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it :)
I agree. I like my ski jacket smelling like the woods. And what happens in the trees , stays in the trees. ; }Geoff wrote:I quit smoking pot in 1998. In the 1980's at Kmart, I was probably high more days than not.
I just decline. I still like the Essence du Chairlift smell. I bitch if somebody's about to light up a cigarette in the Ganjala. That tobacco stench never comes out of Gore Tex.
same here
Would never light up when kids were around but my friends and I never ski without it. Along with drinks of choice of course.BoozeTan wrote:uh, what was the question?
Seriuosly, I would share my stash, but if theres kids in the gondie, Im not gonna light up. I would just have a seat on the side of the trail. I usually ride the singles line and try to scout out the smokers. Its fun to jump in with them and see the look on their face, like damn, now we cant smoke....then I bust it out and see the relief on their faces...its pretty funny. one time we asked if anyone minded, one guy was like "ya I cant smoke, I dont mind if you do, but can you close the windows first"
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As a matter of fact there was a guy and a girl on the lift. I'm aboutnancie2k wrote:was there another guy and girl on the lift? we ran into a friend and got on the gondi- tried to be alone, but someone got on with us. friend asked him if he was a cop. wonder if that was you!BigKahuna13 wrote:Decline but post no opposition provided my daughter wasn't present. Son's been to concerts before and is familiar with the odor......
Brings up a question. Was on the K1 2 weekends ago and some guy gets on and asks if I'm a cop. I respond in the negative and he asks if I mind that he lights up. I didn't, but it got me to wondering exactly why he bothered to ask the question. Even if I was a cop, I don't think I can arrest him unless I'm a Vermont cop (not sure about that but will ask my brother the retired NYC cop), but assuming I could, what's to stop me, other than killing my ski day, from answering no (I mean really why else would the guy ask??) and then just arresting him when he lit up.
i prefer to do my partying after skiing i like to be focused on the slopes.
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This is what my brother, a retired NYPD Seargent had to say on the matter of smoking in public and the police
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Hey J -
How's everyone there? Wish Eileen and the kids a Happy T-Day from us.
Listen got a quick law enforcement question for you.
I was riding the K1 gondola (that's one of the gondolas at Killington)
a couple of weekends ago and a guy gets on and asks if I'm a cop.
When I tell him no, he asks if I mind if he took a
little "herbal medicine" (his words). I didn't, so the guy lights up
and proceeds to enjoy himself.
Question 1: If I was a cop, say from NYC, could I arrest him for drug
possession? I don't think so since I'm not a cop in the locality
where the crime was committed but am not sure.
I kind of remember you saying once that the only way you could arrest
someone out of your jurisdiction was if you were in "hot pursuit" or
something to that affect.
Question 2: Assuming I could arrest the guy, if I lie and say "no I''m
not a cop" and then arrest him afterward, does that buy him any
legal protection?
Sal
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Hey Sal,
First, a Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours also. I hope all is well. Everything is great here.
The answer to your question depends mostly on Vermont law. Using New York as a guide, smoking herbal medicine in a public place (the gondola qualifies) is a misdemeanor. A cop from another jurisdiction could most definitely make an arrest in this situation. What most people don't know, however, is that ordinary citizens in New York State (and in most other states) also have the power of arrest for any felony or misdemeanor committed in their presence. So, in this situation, in N.Y. State, anyone could legally walk up to this person, tell him he is under arrest, handcuff and thoroughly search him, and march him to the nearest courthouse. Of course, this is hardly ever done. Usually he is detained until the local law enforcement arrives and takes custody. Security mall guards operate under these rules.
As far as denying that you are a cop and then arresting, using what I know about NY law, this is perfectly legal, and, in fact, is done all the time by undercovers. Entrapment only takes place when the cop encourages the person to commit a crime.
Vermont law may be totally different, so I can't speak on exactly what would happen there.
The hot pursuit thing has to do with someone committing a crime and crossing a state line. In those circumstances, you are allowed to continue pursuit, but when the suspect is apprehended (hopefully), he MUST be immediately taken to the local magistrate. For instance, NYPD chases a guy over the GW Bridge, catches the guy in Fort Lee. He has to go before a judge in N.J. before he can be returned to N.Y.
Does this help? I'd be more concerned that this guy would do a Sonny Bono flying down those huge Killington runs.......
J.
BTW, the overwhelming majority of law enforcement people I know would not do a thing here, even in their jurisdiction. It is more trouble that it is worth. There are always exceptions, of course, but you are taught not to get involved unless it is serious.
Thanks
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Hey J -
How's everyone there? Wish Eileen and the kids a Happy T-Day from us.
Listen got a quick law enforcement question for you.
I was riding the K1 gondola (that's one of the gondolas at Killington)
a couple of weekends ago and a guy gets on and asks if I'm a cop.
When I tell him no, he asks if I mind if he took a
little "herbal medicine" (his words). I didn't, so the guy lights up
and proceeds to enjoy himself.
Question 1: If I was a cop, say from NYC, could I arrest him for drug
possession? I don't think so since I'm not a cop in the locality
where the crime was committed but am not sure.
I kind of remember you saying once that the only way you could arrest
someone out of your jurisdiction was if you were in "hot pursuit" or
something to that affect.
Question 2: Assuming I could arrest the guy, if I lie and say "no I''m
not a cop" and then arrest him afterward, does that buy him any
legal protection?
Sal
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Hey Sal,
First, a Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours also. I hope all is well. Everything is great here.
The answer to your question depends mostly on Vermont law. Using New York as a guide, smoking herbal medicine in a public place (the gondola qualifies) is a misdemeanor. A cop from another jurisdiction could most definitely make an arrest in this situation. What most people don't know, however, is that ordinary citizens in New York State (and in most other states) also have the power of arrest for any felony or misdemeanor committed in their presence. So, in this situation, in N.Y. State, anyone could legally walk up to this person, tell him he is under arrest, handcuff and thoroughly search him, and march him to the nearest courthouse. Of course, this is hardly ever done. Usually he is detained until the local law enforcement arrives and takes custody. Security mall guards operate under these rules.
As far as denying that you are a cop and then arresting, using what I know about NY law, this is perfectly legal, and, in fact, is done all the time by undercovers. Entrapment only takes place when the cop encourages the person to commit a crime.
Vermont law may be totally different, so I can't speak on exactly what would happen there.
The hot pursuit thing has to do with someone committing a crime and crossing a state line. In those circumstances, you are allowed to continue pursuit, but when the suspect is apprehended (hopefully), he MUST be immediately taken to the local magistrate. For instance, NYPD chases a guy over the GW Bridge, catches the guy in Fort Lee. He has to go before a judge in N.J. before he can be returned to N.Y.
Does this help? I'd be more concerned that this guy would do a Sonny Bono flying down those huge Killington runs.......
J.
BTW, the overwhelming majority of law enforcement people I know would not do a thing here, even in their jurisdiction. It is more trouble that it is worth. There are always exceptions, of course, but you are taught not to get involved unless it is serious.
Thanks
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So if you REALLY piss off an off-duty cop by totally dissrespecting them... They COULD come after you...BigKahuna13 wrote:BTW, the overwhelming majority of law enforcement people I know would not do a thing here, even in their jurisdiction. It is more trouble that it is worth. There are always exceptions, of course, but you are taught not to get involved unless it is serious.
Like my friend who's a cop always says - "There's crime going on before, during and after my shift.. If it happens during the shift then I do what I have to do - otherwise - I'd go crazy trying to deal with it"