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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Just wondering ... how does one figure out his/her speed skiing downhill? 30-50mph? That seems REALLY fast, but I never thought how fast I ski. When I do ski fast, it's on a open trail ... when a lot of people around, I stick to the sides and ski cautiously enough to give other skiers a lot of room regardless of what "the code" says.


I've been clocked numerous times with various methods and have a pretty decent feel for estimating speed off the cuff. 25-30 mph is a pretty normal speed for a low-advanced level skier on fairly open, groomed, intermediate pitch trail. Average crowd/skier speed on Bunny Buster, through the bumps this weekend, was probably around 10mph.

I was hitting about 45-50 mph several times at the bottom of Rime and Mousetrap this past weekend. On rime, that required skating and tucking about half way down lower Rime to hit that speed, then I would start turning, and get in about 3-4 turns before the east fall merge. On Mousetrap, all that was required was a 100 foot straight line down the main pitch, followed by a couple turns, then scrub a few mph, and head down chute or bunny buster....however, there were certainly times when it was too crowded or bumped up to do this, but I did do it about 4 or 5 times.
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Highway Star wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Just wondering ... how does one figure out his/her speed skiing downhill? 30-50mph? That seems REALLY fast, but I never thought how fast I ski. When I do ski fast, it's on a open trail ... when a lot of people around, I stick to the sides and ski cautiously enough to give other skiers a lot of room regardless of what "the code" says.


I've been clocked numerous times with various methods and have a pretty decent feel for estimating speed off the cuff. 25-30 mph is a pretty normal speed for a low-advanced level skier on fairly open, groomed, intermediate pitch trail. Average crowd/skier speed on Bunny Buster, through the bumps this weekend, was probably around 10mph.

I was hitting about 45-50 mph several times at the bottom of Rime and Mousetrap this past weekend. On rime, that required skating and tucking about half way down lower Rime to hit that speed, then I would start turning, and get in about 3-4 turns before the east fall merge. On Mousetrap, all that was required was a 100 foot straight line down the main pitch, followed by a couple turns, then scrub a few mph, and head down chute or bunny buster....however, there were certainly times when it was too crowded or bumped up to do this, but I did do it about 4 or 5 times.
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SPORE wrote:
Highway Star wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Just wondering ... how does one figure out his/her speed skiing downhill? 30-50mph? That seems REALLY fast, but I never thought how fast I ski. When I do ski fast, it's on a open trail ... when a lot of people around, I stick to the sides and ski cautiously enough to give other skiers a lot of room regardless of what "the code" says.


I've been clocked numerous times with various methods and have a pretty decent feel for estimating speed off the cuff. 25-30 mph is a pretty normal speed for a low-advanced level skier on fairly open, groomed, intermediate pitch trail. Average crowd/skier speed on Bunny Buster, through the bumps this weekend, was probably around 10mph.

I was hitting about 45-50 mph several times at the bottom of Rime and Mousetrap this past weekend. On rime, that required skating and tucking about half way down lower Rime to hit that speed, then I would start turning, and get in about 3-4 turns before the east fall merge. On Mousetrap, all that was required was a 100 foot straight line down the main pitch, followed by a couple turns, then scrub a few mph, and head down chute or bunny buster....however, there were certainly times when it was too crowded or bumped up to do this, but I did do it about 4 or 5 times.
Your Ghey.
Look dude, I ski the way I ski because I like it. I really don't care what you guys think. He asked how I estimate speed and what my qualifications are, and I answered. I also told him what I was doing to hit those speeds, where, and what I was skiing on (201cm stocklis). Very simple.
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Steve wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Just wondering ... how does one figure out his/her speed skiing downhill?
gee man - if you were a SERIOUS skier, you'd just know! duh!
Well a serious skiier would not only have a pair of 201 Stokli's, but would have none other than a Silva S1 Radar Ski Speedometer on.


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Highway Star wrote:I did do it about 4 or 5 times.
So did I. :wink:

Try bringing a GPS along, I bet you're slower than you think.
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Highway Star wrote:
SPORE wrote:
Highway Star wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Just wondering ... how does one figure out his/her speed skiing downhill? 30-50mph? That seems REALLY fast, but I never thought how fast I ski. When I do ski fast, it's on a open trail ... when a lot of people around, I stick to the sides and ski cautiously enough to give other skiers a lot of room regardless of what "the code" says.


I've been clocked numerous times with various methods and have a pretty decent feel for estimating speed off the cuff. 25-30 mph is a pretty normal speed for a low-advanced level skier on fairly open, groomed, intermediate pitch trail. Average crowd/skier speed on Bunny Buster, through the bumps this weekend, was probably around 10mph.

I was hitting about 45-50 mph several times at the bottom of Rime and Mousetrap this past weekend. On rime, that required skating and tucking about half way down lower Rime to hit that speed, then I would start turning, and get in about 3-4 turns before the east fall merge. On Mousetrap, all that was required was a 100 foot straight line down the main pitch, followed by a couple turns, then scrub a few mph, and head down chute or bunny buster....however, there were certainly times when it was too crowded or bumped up to do this, but I did do it about 4 or 5 times.
Your Ghey.
Look dude, I ski the way I ski because I like it. I really don't care what you guys think. He asked how I estimate speed and what my qualifications are, and I answered. I also told him what I was doing to hit those speeds, where, and what I was skiing on (201cm stocklis). Very simple.
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SkiDork wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Just wondering ... how does one figure out his/her speed skiing downhill? 30-50mph? That seems REALLY fast, but I never thought how fast I ski. When I do ski fast, it's on a open trail ... when a lot of people around, I stick to the sides and ski cautiously enough to give other skiers a lot of room regardless of what "the code" says.

Although, I must be honest ... I've been yelled at a few times when I was bombing down a run with very few people ... I never get closer then 25' from someone when I cruise, but I still get yelled at, not sure why.
Then again, I get yelled at for stopping on the side of the trail nearly in the trees by experts here and there :roll:
Just because they know who you are... ;-)
Could be haha ... I'm easy to spot so it's possible :lol:
Steve wrote:gee man - if you were a SERIOUS skier, you'd just know! duh!
I apologize Steve, my ignorance and lack of hardcore ski skills has me begging for assistance from a real skier :lol:
Highway Star wrote:Look dude, I ski the way I ski because I like it. I really don't care what you guys think. He asked how I estimate speed and what my qualifications are, and I answered. I also told him what I was doing to hit those speeds, where, and what I was skiing on (201cm stocklis). Very simple.
Actually, you didn't answer, you said "I've been clocked numerous times with various methods and have a pretty decent feel for estimating speed off the cuff" ... what I asked was "how" you estimate your speed. By which methods were you clocked? I'll be honest, I don't care how fast I go, but I'm curious how one could be a "reasonable" assumption like you have ... would be interesting to know how fast I go sometimes.

I know how to ski fast, I just don't know how to estimate my speed. IMHO 25-30mph seems fairly high for a low-advanced skier.
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Highway Star wrote:
SPORE wrote:
Highway Star wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Just wondering ... how does one figure out his/her speed skiing downhill? 30-50mph? That seems REALLY fast, but I never thought how fast I ski. When I do ski fast, it's on a open trail ... when a lot of people around, I stick to the sides and ski cautiously enough to give other skiers a lot of room regardless of what "the code" says.


I've been clocked numerous times with various methods and have a pretty decent feel for estimating speed off the cuff. 25-30 mph is a pretty normal speed for a low-advanced level skier on fairly open, groomed, intermediate pitch trail. Average crowd/skier speed on Bunny Buster, through the bumps this weekend, was probably around 10mph.

I was hitting about 45-50 mph several times at the bottom of Rime and Mousetrap this past weekend. On rime, that required skating and tucking about half way down lower Rime to hit that speed, then I would start turning, and get in about 3-4 turns before the east fall merge. On Mousetrap, all that was required was a 100 foot straight line down the main pitch, followed by a couple turns, then scrub a few mph, and head down chute or bunny buster....however, there were certainly times when it was too crowded or bumped up to do this, but I did do it about 4 or 5 times.
Your Ghey.
Look dude, I ski the way I ski because I like it. I really don't care what you guys think. He asked how I estimate speed and what my qualifications are, and I answered. I also told him what I was doing to hit those speeds, where, and what I was skiing on (201cm stocklis). Very simple.
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Post by Vinny Vincenzo »

Found a picture of a SERIOUS SKIER picture. Not sure, but it may be Highway Star on his 201 Stockli's. He's either going 35-40MPH or he's going 55-60MPH.

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Post by johnny the jibber »

that looks pretty serious, more serious than i am any day out. look at that form....
he would shove your ass so far up your ass and stuff! -thejet61 10/2/09

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Vinny Vincenzo wrote:Lists for $310, but on sale for $179.00 on Amazon
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Wonder if it works ... I guess technically I could time myself on a long straight uncrowded run like header/chute and I could use a mapping tool to find out how many feet the run is and I could calculate my speed this way ... too much work tho haha ... maybe count trees :lol:
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Hawkeye wrote:
Highway Star wrote:I did do it about 4 or 5 times.
So did I. :wink:

Try bringing a GPS along, I bet you're slower than you think.
I've been clocked by GPS.....one of the multiple methods. I know what fast is.

I'll bet that you're just slow......
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johnny the jibber wrote:that looks pretty serious, more serious than i am any day out. look at that form....
Tele skis to boot!
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Highway Star wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:
Highway Star wrote:I did do it about 4 or 5 times.
So did I. :wink:

Try bringing a GPS along, I bet you're slower than you think.
I've been clocked by GPS.....one of the multiple methods. I know what fast is.

I'll bet that you're just slow......
Dude you should of see it...I came down Great Northern straight lined it as much as possible. When I got to the Ridge Run interesection, I launched off the lip and did a double back flip over a beginners lesson, landed switch and rode away..I must of been doing like 65mph.. I swear.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
SkiDork wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Just wondering ... how does one figure out his/her speed skiing downhill? 30-50mph? That seems REALLY fast, but I never thought how fast I ski. When I do ski fast, it's on a open trail ... when a lot of people around, I stick to the sides and ski cautiously enough to give other skiers a lot of room regardless of what "the code" says.

Although, I must be honest ... I've been yelled at a few times when I was bombing down a run with very few people ... I never get closer then 25' from someone when I cruise, but I still get yelled at, not sure why.
Then again, I get yelled at for stopping on the side of the trail nearly in the trees by experts here and there :roll:
Just because they know who you are... ;-)
Could be haha ... I'm easy to spot so it's possible :lol:
Steve wrote:gee man - if you were a SERIOUS skier, you'd just know! duh!
I apologize Steve, my ignorance and lack of hardcore ski skills has me begging for assistance from a real skier :lol:
Highway Star wrote:Look dude, I ski the way I ski because I like it. I really don't care what you guys think. He asked how I estimate speed and what my qualifications are, and I answered. I also told him what I was doing to hit those speeds, where, and what I was skiing on (201cm stocklis). Very simple.
Actually, you didn't answer, you said "I've been clocked numerous times with various methods and have a pretty decent feel for estimating speed off the cuff" ... what I asked was "how" you estimate your speed. By which methods were you clocked? I'll be honest, I don't care how fast I go, but I'm curious how one could be a "reasonable" assumption like you have ... would be interesting to know how fast I go sometimes.

I know how to ski fast, I just don't know how to estimate my speed. IMHO 25-30mph seems fairly high for a low-advanced skier.
Sure. I've been clocked by GPS, and time vs. distance method....you measure out a distance (like 100 feet), and have someone time you or videotape you skiing that distance. I've done videotaped jumping where the jump distance was measured, and the takeoff speed was back calculated. I've also done time vs. distance on rollerblades, for a top speed of around 30 mph, and have ridden mountain and road bikes with speedometers for numerous years, and have done some drag racing (12.5@114 mph, PR). One time, I saw a dude ride a mountain bike straight down the landing ramp for the BOC ski jump (a 90m hill I belive), on snow with studded tires......he hit 58 mph according to his speedometer.....sicko.

Anyway, 25 mph isn't fast at all....it's nothing. Pretty much every intermediate skier hits it every day they ski.....when I taught one of my ex-GF's to ski several years ago, she hit 25 mph on her first day ever on skis, multiple times (totally out of control snowplow, but whatever). Most experts regularly ski in the 35-40 mph range. 50 mph feels fast. 60 mph feels very fast. 70+ mph......well, I suggest you wear something aero, like tight jeans.
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