What Can the New Owners do to Fix K This Season

[rogman]

Bleeding edge seems like it would be a poor choice for a critical lift like Superstar.

[easyrider16]

another option is building the park in the superstar pod, and then the snow lasts longer as its north facing and it can be farmed for superstar at the end of the season or just mowed down and turned back into a regular trail.

I always thought it was odd that they built the biggest jumps on a trail nestled in the woods where few people could spectate. Seems to me the place for a big jump park would be Superstar, Highline, OL, or Needles Eye - right below a lift and in view of a base lodge. At least that way people who can't ride it (99.9% of us) can enjoy watching those that can and everyone can get something out of the deal.

[asher2789]

another option is building the park in the superstar pod, and then the snow lasts longer as its north facing and it can be farmed for superstar at the end of the season or just mowed down and turned back into a regular trail.

I always thought it was odd that they built the biggest jumps on a trail nestled in the woods where few people could spectate. Seems to me the place for a big jump park would be Superstar, Highline, OL, or Needles Eye - right below a lift and in view of a base lodge. At least that way people who can't ride it (99.9% of us) can enjoy watching those that can and everyone can get something out of the deal.

before my time they had a park on snowshed under the lift and a halfpipe on highline. snowshed is too important as beginner terrain to justify a park. there was also a park on header when i first came to k. and a few years in they put a family friendly park on it, with banked turns and rollers that were sick id love to see those return but i think snow park technologies designed it and the licensing was too expensive for k to justify, which is a shame. id love a halfpipe on highline - its steep enough, its in the sun, and its visible to spectators, but its also the trail the mountain chooses to run races and mogul comps on. so a halfpipe isnt possible. and as a slopestyle trail it is far too steep. mouse run is a great trail for a park but too short to justify being a season long park. id love to see an alternative to timby on snowdon but i cant see where theyd be able to place one that mimics the flow of timby. superstar is already a flagship racing trail (world cup), so many skiers would be unbelievably pissed if that turned into a park trail. the headwall is too steep for anything and prestons pitch is too steep for anything other than maybe a massive booter that 99% of the public cant hit or a pipe, but i think its too steep for that too. i vote skylark! needles eye would also be a great choice, but again its used for racing, because apparently the KMS kids dont already have enough race trail options and need more?

[daytripper]

I miss the boarder cross they had on dreammaker back before putting the big park there, that was fun and a lot more people were able to use it. Would be great if one of the parks turned into that instead of a regular park.

[GlenPLake]

I have always thought that the Peace Park park should be on Reason, Upper and Lower East Fall.

Leave the early season Reason park, then add upper east fall, then eventually add lower east fall too as other parts of the mountain are opening up.

It would be a very high visibility park, everyone would see where it is, and that way the park folks can make laps using the underutilized canyon quad.

Timberline is arguably the best blue trail at K for true intermediate riders, and has lots of fun low angle glades for those looking to start their ventures into the trees. My thought is that they should put in a new Ramshead chair and give that part of the mountain back to the families that subsidize most of our toys.

[newpylong1]

Lower East Fall is too steep but also is vitally important as the "less" steep way into the Canyon.

[Skid Mark]

Let's face it. There is no good place for a park at Killington.

Killington should buy Round top and turn it into a park rat paradise.

[Downdraft]

Few things -

Superstar 6 pack at $12m is a pretty solid price this days. Glad they didn’t go D line.

As for all the park haters or lovers. Killington actually doesn’t have any real amazing trails for a park. Or a huge park buildout - the current big park that gets put on dream maker is not a good trail for it. Fall line is horrible and location is kinda poor. But it’s out of the way and when the pipe was there it made sense.

Header top to bottom actually has a real good pitch for a big park and space. But that’s not going to happen and shouldn’t since it’s heart of beginner terrain. Timberline is okay, for what they build in there (small/medium size)

I’m all for parks in one centralized location. And even a lift that serves mainly just parks. Keeps the park only crowd confined. Killington just doesn’t have this anywhere. So there is real no “fix” to this problem, if it really even is a problem.

[Downdraft]

If you look at some of the bigger terrain parks out there, you see that common trend of:
- close to or at a base
- wide, space, and kind of stand alone
- a almost dedicated lift

Mammoth has thier park at the base and broadway chair
Copper is mid mountain, pipe at base, dedicated lift
Park City has dedicated lift/trails at base and park all alone
Mount Snow, even now scaled back has own base/lift for park

Killington just doesn’t have this option. I did hear back in day the possibility of all Ramshead park/Woodward. Don’t need to worry about that anymore. I’d be all for it since terrain is great but you just cut off all the good beginner/intermediate stuff.

[newpylong1]

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Coupled with a new lodge, problem solved lol.

[jimmywilson69]

Not a terrible idea. VT might permit it by the time it no longer snows...

you could actually move the load to the bottom of where the pipe used to be. Would give a little more room for a queue. The pipe is never coming back so might as well use that realestate.

[newpylong1]

Lotta possible alignments for sure. The trick would be to get enough trail length to be able to retire Timberline and get all the parks into one spot with one lift.

[Stormchaser]

Build it right down the old access road when traffic routes up Vale Rd.

[Captain Hafski]

I am still on my Lift / Trail Status rant. Can't believe they can't get this right.

On a positive note, and starting to see some other Zoners with positive comments, the "Mountain Report" has certainly improved. In general, it makes sense, doesn't contradict other info too much, and I like the separate Weather, Snowmaking, Grooming [just points you to Trail Status, but OK], and Ops Updates. Past few days have been very good.

So - Back to Trail Status. First, see my yesterday reports about Field Goal being Open. I think not. Still showing Open today and though I doubt it, I haven't personally checked. Then there are Upper and Lower Great Bear - Showing as Open today. How can that be with Upper Chute being closed for snowmaking? Maybe we're supposed to get their from Low Rider?

Still can't believe they can't get this important info right.

[Skid Mark]

I am still on my Lift / Trail Status rant. Can't believe they can't get this right.

On a positive note, and starting to see some other Zoners with positive comments, the "Mountain Report" has certainly improved. In general, it makes sense, doesn't contradict other info too much, and I like the separate Weather, Snowmaking, Grooming [just points you to Trail Status, but OK], and Ops Updates. Past few days have been very good.

So - Back to Trail Status. First, see my yesterday reports about Field Goal being Open. I think not. Still showing Open today and though I doubt it, I haven't personally checked. Then there are Upper and Lower Great Bear - Showing as Open today. How can that be with Upper Chute being closed for snowmaking? Maybe we're supposed to get their from Low Rider?

Still can't believe they can't get this important info right.

Divide and conquer. They should assign a different person to each pod and make them responsible for accurate and timely reporting. Incentivize a job well done.