LarryAck wrote:Help me understand.....why the negative spin on the village. I have been to Whistler and Tremblant. If they build a village like those two. It will give people many more restaurants, movies, niteclubs and shops. There will be more opportunity to spend their vacation dollars and give Killington a sense of identity, which has been lost over the years. People who have investments in real estate in the area will see their property values rise. Where is the negative?
Because a lot of the people here don't have the money to spend at the places that are typically installed in these villages, and don't like the clientel that they typically bring in.
Good for the ski area, bad for us.
What kind of clientele is that?
Rich People......
Interesting comment. Would you like to keep out poor people. Get real.....Anybody who can afford a lift ticket has more money than alot of people. Next time you are on the mountain keep your eyes open to all the condominiums, and houses in the area. Killington is not a poor area. It actually has a rich clientelle, maybe not in Okemos rank, but netherless its not going to cry poverty. That is why the State of Vermont loves us so much. If you are looking through a 20 year old's eyes, hopefully you will have a family and afford a second home in ski country in the future. If not, I'm not going to appologize to you. I don't consider myself rich, but I have a house on the mountain, and want to enjoy all aspects of the skiing experience including more restaurants and shops to shop after skiing.
Seriously....? Killington seems to draw in a crowd from the NY area who can ski, because it's the closest place with real terrain. And people from Boston who can ski pretty well and are party animals.
Killington has a way to go before it becomes a trophy home hot spot again.
There is a market in Vermont for high end housing at ski areas. Look to the Muellers and what they did with the new addition over at Jackson Gore. The new full time year round units sold for over $1 million and up and were sold out in a month. The amenities at the new Jackson Gore area are first rate. Build it and they will come. The new owner will have to compete with the destination resorts like Tremblant, Whistler and the areas out west, so the pricing and services will have to be competitive to the same target market, not necessarily rich people only. Not everyone is interested in buying, but quite a few will want to vacation in a well run first rate destination resort. With the terrain Killington has and all the new activities that come with being a destination resort the new Killington can compete in this area, if they do it right. I hope they do it right, a rising tide floats all boats and I'm looking to build something in a year or two anyway. This development can only make my property worth more if done right.
People in my age group (early 20's) throw that term around a lot, but when I ask them what it means to them personally, they get confused.
I don't care about being rich, I just want to have enough money to do the things that interest me and at the same time help my children with college and the things that interest them ... and eventually, a comfortable retirement.
LarryAck wrote:Help me understand.....why the negative spin on the village. I have been to Whistler and Tremblant. If they build a village like those two. It will give people many more restaurants, movies, niteclubs and shops. There will be more opportunity to spend their vacation dollars and give Killington a sense of identity, which has been lost over the years. People who have investments in real estate in the area will see their property values rise. Where is the negative?
Because a lot of the people here don't have the money to spend at the places that are typically installed in these villages, and don't like the clientel that they typically bring in.
Good for the ski area, bad for us.
What kind of clientele is that?
Rich People......
We're already here.
Not that we're rich. I doubt there are many "rich" people on this board. Middle class and upper middle certainly. But rich. Really rich. Doubtful.
And many of us not-rich people do own vacation residences and do
like things like decent restaurants and shops and what not.
Killington could not survive if it had to depend on people who could barely scrape together the cost of a lift ticket.
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skifaster wrote:Paying for parking at a ski resort is beyond lame, its disgusting.
People pay enough at a resort, to have them pay for parking is criminal.
Just like paying to park at 6 flags..or at a concert
skifaster wrote:Paying for parking at a ski resort is beyond lame, its disgusting.
People pay enough at a resort, to have them pay for parking is criminal.
Just like paying to park at 6 flags..or at a concert
johnny the jibber wrote:where is everyone gonna park?
Wally's.
Highway Star wrote:Killington has a way to go before it becomes a trophy home hot spot again.
Again?
Lol....if it ever was...was probably closer at one point.
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skifaster wrote:Paying for parking at a ski resort is beyond lame, its disgusting.
People pay enough at a resort, to have them pay for parking is criminal.
Jeez. I personally think my $240 preferred parking pass is a superb value. If you go to a resort like Vail, free parking is a 10-minute bus ride from the lifts. The real estate where the former parking lots sat was far too valuable to waste on day trippers.
Glad you are all ok with paying for parking. It's lame, and makes a resort way too corporate. I supposed its ok when the Forest service starts charging to use there trails and their access.
It's just another way to bleed customers. It is all part of the lift ticket. Just because others charge doesn't make it right.
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Seriously....? Killington seems to draw in a crowd from the NY area who can ski, because it's the closest place with real terrain. And people from Boston who can ski pretty well and are party animals.
Killington has a way to go before it becomes a trophy home hot spot again.
There is a market in Vermont for high end housing at ski areas. Look to the Muellers and what they did with the new addition over at Jackson Gore. The new full time year round units sold for over $1 million and up and were sold out in a month. The amenities at the new Jackson Gore area are first rate. Build it and they will come. The new owner will have to compete with the destination resorts like Tremblant, Whistler and the areas out west, so the pricing and services will have to be competitive to the same target market, not necessarily rich people only. Not everyone is interested in buying, but quite a few will want to vacation in a well run first rate destination resort. With the terrain Killington has and all the new activities that come with being a destination resort the new Killington can compete in this area, if they do it right. I hope they do it right, a rising tide floats all boats and I'm looking to build something in a year or two anyway. This development can only make my property worth more if done right.
Of course there's a real estate market!!! AT OTHER SKI AREAS!!!!!
Killington has some pretty damn stiff competition. As you said, Okemo is hot. Stratton was the first new yorker hot spot....hell, my parents met there in the 70's! Sugarbush is coming up. Now Stowe is going to be HUGE once they get the new village done (with all the condos on the hill behind it).
What do all these places have in common? They all have very well run mountains, with modern lifts, facilites, etc. Killington is not up to par right now, by quite a bit. Maybe after 5 years and $50M spent on the mountain, they will again have a competitive product, and will be able to compete on the real estate side.
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"The key is to not be lame, and know it, and not give a rat's @$$ what anybody thinks......that's real cool." - Highway Star http://goo.gl/xJxo34" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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johnny the jibber wrote:strange there were no rumors flying around about sp land, only heard about powdr the last few weeks...
I'd heard the SP Land rumor at least several weeks ago but didn't know what to make of it given all the POWDR talk.
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