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Stormchaser wrote:

CAPBOY wrote:

Stormchaser wrote: I really like to use my poling as a timing mechanism in the bumps. When my body is in the proper position for the next pole plant, it is also in the proper skiing position. Losing my poles would f me up.

Well, of course, I haven't seen you ski, so measure my comments.

I too use my polesfor exactly the purpose you describe. Thing is, most of us get too carried away with our poles and use them incorrectly. Ditching them will F you up at first, but after a while, it teaches you better balance, limits your reliance on the poles (over use F's you up more than you could imagine) and improves your body position.

Its a basic exercise, but the problem with most skiers is that they don't want to practice basic excercises, right? Boring and not always easy.

Guess we kind of achieve the same result with different technique. Or maybe different problems to begin with. My bump skiing was mediocre at best until I started using my poles. My upper body was lagging through my turns, and the tip of using my pole plants as timing for my turns, made all the difference in the world.

If your poles are getting in the way, by all means lose them and get the proper position down. My poles actually helped me to gain the proper position. Effectively, I was skiing without poles (by not using them), and the bumps were throwing me out of position. Forcing myself to plant on the upcoming bump, prevented my over-rotation. It was like turning on a light switch for me.

But I know what your saying about over-poling. As much as it can keep you in position, it can also cause you to overcommit to turns if you not doing it correctly. If you have no poles in your hand, you can't use them to balance yourself, and your body had to learn to balance by itself. When you take back your poles, they are no longer your crutch.

CAPBOY wrote:

Stormchaser wrote:

CAPBOY wrote:

Stormchaser wrote: I really like to use my poling as a timing mechanism in the bumps. When my body is in the proper position for the next pole plant, it is also in the proper skiing position. Losing my poles would f me up.

Well, of course, I haven't seen you ski, so measure my comments.

I too use my polesfor exactly the purpose you describe. Thing is, most of us get too carried away with our poles and use them incorrectly. Ditching them will F you up at first, but after a while, it teaches you better balance, limits your reliance on the poles (over use F's you up more than you could imagine) and improves your body position.

Its a basic exercise, but the problem with most skiers is that they don't want to practice basic excercises, right? Boring and not always easy.

Guess we kind of achieve the same result with different technique. Or maybe different problems to begin with. My bump skiing was mediocre at best until I started using my poles. My upper body was lagging through my turns, and the tip of using my pole plants as timing for my turns, made all the difference in the world.

If your poles are getting in the way, by all means lose them and get the proper position down. My poles actually helped me to gain the proper position. Effectively, I was skiing without poles (by not using them), and the bumps were throwing me out of position. Forcing myself to plant on the upcoming bump, prevented my over-rotation. It was like turning on a light switch for me.

But I know what your saying about over-poling. As much as it can keep you in position, it can also cause you to overcommit to turns if you not doing it correctly. If you have no poles in your hand, you can't use them to balance yourself, and your body had to learn to balance by itself. When you take back your poles, they are no longer your crutch.

Are you skiing bumps on Six Stars??????????????????????

twilkas wrote:I liked the 6 stars for fast cruising on hard pack but they had their way with me in the bumps. they were brutal. If you're doing ok with those monsters i have to believe it will make you a better bump skier... i felt like there was zero margin for error on those things.

either of you guys up tomorrow? I won't get there until about 11am wouldnt mind connecting.

twilkas wrote:
A strong move with my hand towards the midpoint of my body (and sometimes over) seems to kind of drag my knees over with it, putting my skis on eddge as a result. The work of an edge change is getting a little assist by this motion. So my hands end up the leading move for each turn.

twilkas wrote:I liked the 6 stars for fast cruising on hard pack but they had their way with me in the bumps. they were brutal. If you're doing ok with those monsters i have to believe it will make you a better bump skier... i felt like there was zero margin for error on those things.

either of you guys up tomorrow? I won't get there until about 11am wouldnt mind connecting.

twilkas wrote:I liked the 6 stars for fast cruising on hard pack but they had their way with me in the bumps. they were brutal. If you're doing ok with those monsters i have to believe it will make you a better bump skier... i felt like there was zero margin for error on those things.

either of you guys up tomorrow? I won't get there until about 11am wouldnt mind connecting.

Mack wrote:Actually.. regarding the hands. Some people do use the hands more and do more with them than just a flick of the wrist. Meaning, if they absorb with huge lateral absorption (knees don't go up/down, but they sort of go diagonally upwards and to the side), then they counter with their hand in order to keep their balance by bringing their non-planting hand across their body. You can see that on the links below, specifically the Mikko link (he was the world champ a few years ago). You can then see how different that is than the style being talked about here, which is just 'flicking the wrist' on the Travis Mayer videos.

http://www.mogullogic.com/lessons.html

Back to shin pressure, since it's so important. What are some tricks, or tips and techniques you folks have used to help you with it. I also happen to have a severe case of 'back-seat-itis'.

twilkas wrote:yeah, well, this is where I need help I guess. I've only known a carved turn all my skiing life so it's only natural for me to still want to do that. bump focus started about 3 years ago.

I think equipment choice comes into play here too.. i'm on Atomic BetaRide
10.2 circa a few years ago, 190cm... (i'm 6'1" 195ish)
Capboy, if you could take a quick look in the gallery, there is a short vid clip there...your analysis/comments, would be most appreciated.
http://www.killingtonzone.com/albums/Tw ... 05_003.avi
pedro, you saw this already, but comments welcome.