Large condo fire in Killington

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Re: Large condo fire in Killington

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Mister Moose wrote:
Humpty Dumpty wrote:
freeski wrote:Here's the article Finn referenced. They had around 9 tankers shuttling water according to the chief. It was called in as chimney fire and looks like it spread very fast. Just glad no people including firefighters were hurt. Just one of those situations were they did all they could; the fire just had too big of a jump, the water shortage and cold didn't help.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20 ... /1001/NEWS" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hmmm? Where's Mr. Moose and his pontification now?

I know. Tail between his legs hiding under the deck.
One more time Humpty. You. Weren't. There.

Notice the fire was called in at `11:30pm. Notice there was no time stated the 9 tankers arrived on the scene.

I watched the fire burn, and I watched the trucks set up until approximately 1:30am, and 1 aerial nozzle had no water for the first 2 hours and the second aerial nozzle had water for 30ish seconds in the first 2 hours. Why?

Again I ask, Does Killington need its own tanker? Would Grumpty care to offer his esteemed opinion on the advisability of a town of 20,000 dozens of miles from the next firehouse with many 4 story wood structures and hundreds upon hundreds of attached condos getting a tanker? Compare the advisability of a tanker vs a fountain at the slip lane parcel, Veteran Fireman Humpty.

(My home town of only 800's volunteer department had an old, purchased used tanker 35 years ago. 3 trucks in a barn. Water counts.)
And! And! And! Missus Moose.....

One tanker doesn't get the job done. A 3000 gallon tanker will run dry very quickly given the gpm output of a single engine.

http://www.fireengineering.com/articles ... apiro.html

http://www.fireengineering.com/articles ... e-out.html

So in conclusion, do not speak of which you do not know. Live to fight another day on KZone. This wasn't your best two days.

Snow Sprite, out.
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Re: Large condo fire in Killington

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Skivt2 wrote:As a result of the Labor Day week storm that blew the roofs off the two condo buildings at Pico, the chimney's were inspected with cameras. The majority in building C failed and as a result the fireplaces are condemned. The official stance is that the storm caused the pipes to separate. I wonder if the pipes were already a problem prior to the storm but were identified as problems after the storm. Who knows if they were ever inspected in that manner in the past. My guess is no. The building still has no roof after 6 months and only has a big blue tarp instead. It's obvious repairs move at a glacial pace. It seems unlikely anyone will be having a safe fire soon as each unit will require expensive repairs before the fireplaces are safe. A chimney fire is certainly a concern since folks renting for the weekend may ignore the ban on burning and catch the place on fire. There are no sprinklers either. It seems like a common problem with these types of buildings.
they should convert them to gas like they did at Killington Gateway and others...
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Re: Large condo fire in Killington

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Humpty Dumpty wrote: And! And! And! Missus Moose.....

One tanker doesn't get the job done. A 3000 gallon tanker will run dry very quickly given the gpm output of a single engine.

http://www.fireengineering.com/articles ... apiro.html

http://www.fireengineering.com/articles ... e-out.html

So in conclusion, do not speak of which you do not know. Live to fight another day on KZone. This wasn't your best two days.

Snow Sprite, out.
1) So since on a large enough fire one tanker might not be enough, we therefore should never get one. Brilliant.
2) The whole reason sprinklers work is to delay the intensification of the fire until the department arrives. Minutes are precious at the start. If one tanker arrives soon enough, you might not need the second. And the resident tanker is back from a refill at Snowshed before a mutual aid tanker likely even arrives.

I'm beginning to wonder if you are really a fireman, or just play one on the internet.
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