Poaching

[skiadikt]

The whole notion of runs being "reserved" only for folks who think they are good skiers or that only herbs should get their passes pulled is something that I cannot agree with. Things are pretty cut and dry, if you take the risk and get caught any patroller that lets you off the hook is a cool customer, but that should not be the expectation. If folks are that hard up to shred the gnar perhaps grab some skins and go off resort.

as i mentioned in my okemo friday report, though they didn't get as much snow, there were a number of trails that looked very poachable - beautiful snowy carpets. there wasn't a single track. clearly a different atittude or level of "entitlement" (and perhaps ability) between skiers at the two resorts.

obviously once we get most of the mtn open, poaching will be less obvious. right now if you're dropping into the canyon, you're a sitting duck because everything there is closed and there's only one way out.

[daytripper]

The whole notion of runs being "reserved" only for folks who think they are good skiers or that only herbs should get their passes pulled is something that I cannot agree with. Things are pretty cut and dry, if you take the risk and get caught any patroller that lets you off the hook is a cool customer, but that should not be the expectation. If folks are that hard up to shred the gnar perhaps grab some skins and go off resort.

as i mentioned in my okemo friday report, though they didn't get as much snow, there were a number of trails that looked very poachable - beautiful snowy carpets. there wasn't a single track. clearly a different atittude or level of "entitlement" (and perhaps ability) between skiers at the two resorts.

obviously once we get most of the mtn open, poaching will be less obvious. right now if you're dropping into the canyon, you're a sitting duck because everything there is closed and there's only one way out.

So what's the difference in the spring? Nobody seems to care if people ski the canyon when we are down to just superstar. Everything there is closed and only one way out.

[skiadikt]

The whole notion of runs being "reserved" only for folks who think they are good skiers or that only herbs should get their passes pulled is something that I cannot agree with. Things are pretty cut and dry, if you take the risk and get caught any patroller that lets you off the hook is a cool customer, but that should not be the expectation. If folks are that hard up to shred the gnar perhaps grab some skins and go off resort.

as i mentioned in my okemo friday report, though they didn't get as much snow, there were a number of trails that looked very poachable - beautiful snowy carpets. there wasn't a single track. clearly a different atittude or level of "entitlement" (and perhaps ability) between skiers at the two resorts.

obviously once we get most of the mtn open, poaching will be less obvious. right now if you're dropping into the canyon, you're a sitting duck because everything there is closed and there's only one way out.

So what's the difference in the spring? Nobody seems to care if people ski the canyon when we are down to just superstar. Everything there is closed and only one way out.

true. perhaps now early season, they're trying to make a statement. in my years of skiing k, never seen them this serious about it.

a bit different in the spring when you have to hike 20+ min in and another 20 min out so perhaps they figure if you're willing to do that, you're either crazy or a good enough skier and they look the other way. also technically you can walk up launch pad from below the supe hw and that's not roped. ski patrol is also minimally staffed late season and it's not worth having someone hang on the runout to bust the handful of skiers that do that nature walk. hopefully not, but this could change as well.

[ski]

The whole notion of runs being "reserved" only for folks who think they are good skiers or that only herbs should get their passes pulled is something that I cannot agree with. Things are pretty cut and dry, if you take the risk and get caught any patroller that lets you off the hook is a cool customer, but that should not be the expectation. If folks are that hard up to shred the gnar perhaps grab some skins and go off resort.

as i mentioned in my okemo friday report, though they didn't get as much snow, there were a number of trails that looked very poachable - beautiful snowy carpets. there wasn't a single track. clearly a different atittude or level of "entitlement" (and perhaps ability) between skiers at the two resorts.

obviously once we get most of the mtn open, poaching will be less obvious. right now if you're dropping into the canyon, you're a sitting duck because everything there is closed and there's only one way out.

So what's the difference in the spring? Nobody seems to care if people ski the canyon when we are down to just superstar. Everything there is closed and only one way out.

THIS !!!

[ski]

So ski patrol pulled passes midweek…

But ZERO speed/reckless skiing enforcement yesterday- Saturday?

In the fog, crowded trails, tons of crazy skiers who can’t turn or stop… most were racing down to north ridge quad from the Park..
Other crazies were on great northern … big bottle neck under the triple and no enforcement…

. . . AND THIS ! ! !

[easyrider16]

Isn't there a difference between poaching early season after a little snowfall when there's no real base, and poaching mid-season when there's a decent base and a small dump is enough to open a lot of terrain? I imagine early season poaching is a lot more dangerous for everyone involved.

[Pedro]

Every time I poached in the past 2 years it was with an off duty patroller....i guess he wasn't concerned about the safety of his comrades

[snoloco]

The question is whether being an off duty patroller is a get out of jail free card, or a go directly to jail card.

[Pedro]

Every day, Charlie squats in the bush, he gets stronger, while the skiers and riders think they rule the mountains. But up there in the white wilderness, it's a different world. A world where rules bend like ski poles in a wipeout. My friends, kings of the slopes in their minds, poach trails with the same disregard as a renegade soldier in a war-torn jungle. They don't see the danger, the chaos they're creating, not just for themselves, but for others. Like phantoms, they glide down forbidden paths, believing they're invincible.

In this mountain jungle, I'm the watchful eye, the ski patroller, forbidden to chase but always vigilant. We're the unseen guardians, the ones who step into the fray when these thrill-seekers inevitably fall victim to their own hubris. It's a thankless job, like trying to contain the madness of war.

And just like in war, there's this twisted sense of invincibility in these skiers. They barrel down crowded trails, a blur of arrogance and speed, thinking they're in control. But control is just an illusion in the face of nature's unpredictable wrath.

The moment of reckoning comes for some, a harsh awakening as they're stripped of their mountain privileges, a lecture ringing in their ears. But it's a rare victory. For every one caught, countless others continue, guided only by the law of not getting caught. And in their minds, they're special, exceptions to the rule, untouchable.

But out there, in the white expanse, nature doesn't care about your exceptions. The mountain doesn't discriminate. It waits, silent and indifferent, as the game continues, as they all play their dangerous game of cat and mouse with fate. And I watch, helplessly, as every day, Charlie gets stronger in the bush

WT absolute F is wrong with you people? Equating poaching with the Vietnam War? Awful. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Vile.

Some day this war is going to end.

[Eddytheyetti]

https://mountainuniforms.com/product-ca ... ki-patrol/

Maybe we all need red Kzone jackets with white crosses. Could make the next powder day pretty entertaining.


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[skiadikt]

https://mountainuniforms.com/product-ca ... ki-patrol/

Maybe we all need red Kzone jackets with white crosses. Could make the next powder day pretty entertaining.


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wonder what the sentence would be for impersonating a patroller.

[hillbangin]

The Ski Patroller (SP) to Open Terrain Acreage (OTA ) ratio does not favor the poacher early season.

That ratio is further impacted midweek when the On Hill Skiers ( OHS ) are less than weekends. (SP/OTA)*OHS

Also Ski Patroller Visability ( SPV ) is another variant that effect Optimal Poaching Conditions ( OPC ). Snow/Fog reduces SPV.

Patroller Trail Visibility ( PTV ) also needs to be low - Northstar/Vertigo is low - Ovation is HIGH

For optimal poaching conditions ( OPC ) :

SP/OTA needs to be optimal - more acreage = less patrollers per acre.
PTV - Low
SVP - Poor
OHS - High

[fdskier56]

https://recruiting.adp.com/srccar/publi ... 0996266806

Are these people going to politely ask the out of control skiers to slow down?
Or will they pull passes ?

[Guy in Shorts]

https://recruiting.adp.com/srccar/publi ... 0996266806

Are these people going to politely ask the out of control skiers to slow down?
Or will they pull passes ?

Poaching the Poaching thread with other complaints is a whole different type of rope ducking. Appears that you want patrol to pull the passes of all skiers that are skiing faster than you are.

[snoloco]

Whether they can or can't pull passes, they aren't going to put that on the job posting. If they did, then those who'd sign up would be a bunch of power trippers who just wanted to take passes, and not do any other part of the job.