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Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 4th, '21, 19:47
by deadheadskier
brownman wrote: Mar 4th, '21, 19:36 .. so all you Qanon dopes .. what's the plan now ? :lol:

:zzz
Don't you worry Brownie

There's still hope for BigJohnski

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-theorist ... ag-1573871

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 5th, '21, 14:44
by Bubba

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 5th, '21, 15:08
by throbster
What are you Antifa clowns doing now? Waiting for the George Floyd cop trial to peacefully protest?

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 15th, '21, 11:42
by Bubba
Juan Williams: Trump's jealous rants can't hide his failures

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... s-failures

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 15th, '21, 14:55
by throbster
Juan Williams is a democrat talking point macine. Does he really think Trump would have sat back and not order additional vaccine? Seriously, Biden is bragging about asking for more vaccine like he saved the country. Taking credit for someone else's accomplishment is shameful, but once a plagerist, always a plagerist.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 15th, '21, 15:09
by XtremeJibber2001
throbster wrote: Mar 15th, '21, 14:55Does he really think Trump would have sat back and not order additional vaccine?
He knows Trump didn't order more.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science ... s-n1250357
The White House reportedly declined “multiple” offers from Pfizer to strike a deal on more vaccines for the second quarter of 2021.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 15th, '21, 15:21
by throbster
Dr. Moncef Slaoui, who is leading the government’s vaccine effort, noted the Trump administration was looking at a number of different vaccines during the summer. He told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Tuesday that “no one reasonably would buy more from any one of those vaccines because we didn’t know which one would work and which one would be better than the other.”

...but yah, nice try

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 15th, '21, 16:47
by XtremeJibber2001
throbster wrote: Mar 15th, '21, 15:21 Dr. Moncef Slaoui, who is leading the government’s vaccine effort, noted the Trump administration was looking at a number of different vaccines during the summer. He told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Tuesday that “no one reasonably would buy more from any one of those vaccines because we didn’t know which one would work and which one would be better than the other.”

...but yah, nice try
throbster wrote: Mar 15th, '21, 14:55 Does he really think Trump would have sat back and not order additional vaccine?
Yes, he sat back and did not order more. That's exactly what you quoted. Am I missing something?

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 16th, '21, 06:38
by easyrider16
Up is down, wrong is right, the sky is green. Facts are what Trump says they are. We know for a fact Pfizer offered Trump's administration more vaccine doses and they declined. This is a fact. Yet for his supporters, reality does not exist.

The willingness to believe misinformation is the most frightening thing in the US today. Instead of looking at the substance of an article, people dismiss it outright because they think the source is biased. News flash, people, all sources are biased. If you ignore the ones you don't agree with, your entire worldview will be shaped by your own bias.

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Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 16th, '21, 07:28
by throbster
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Mar 15th, '21, 16:47
throbster wrote: Mar 15th, '21, 15:21 Dr. Moncef Slaoui, who is leading the government’s vaccine effort, noted the Trump administration was looking at a number of different vaccines during the summer. He told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Tuesday that “no one reasonably would buy more from any one of those vaccines because we didn’t know which one would work and which one would be better than the other.”

...but yah, nice try
throbster wrote: Mar 15th, '21, 14:55 Does he really think Trump would have sat back and not order additional vaccine?
Yes, he sat back and did not order more. That's exactly what you quoted. Am I missing something?
The quote is saying that at the time, no one would reasonably order more vaccine until more results were known.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 16th, '21, 08:52
by XtremeJibber2001
throbster wrote: Mar 16th, '21, 07:28
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Mar 15th, '21, 16:47
throbster wrote: Mar 15th, '21, 15:21 Dr. Moncef Slaoui, who is leading the government’s vaccine effort, noted the Trump administration was looking at a number of different vaccines during the summer. He told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Tuesday that “no one reasonably would buy more from any one of those vaccines because we didn’t know which one would work and which one would be better than the other.”

...but yah, nice try
throbster wrote: Mar 15th, '21, 14:55 Does he really think Trump would have sat back and not order additional vaccine?
Yes, he sat back and did not order more. That's exactly what you quoted. Am I missing something?
The quote is saying that at the time, no one would reasonably order more vaccine until more results were known.
Correct. Trump made a decision to not order more. You can say you agree with his decision to not order more, but to your original question "Does he (Biden) really think Trump would have sat back and not order additional vaccine?" ... the answer to the question is Yes, Trump did sit back and not order more.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 16th, '21, 09:35
by throbster
easyrider16 wrote: Mar 16th, '21, 06:38 Up is down, wrong is right, the sky is green. Facts are what Trump says they are. We know for a fact Pfizer offered Trump's administration more vaccine doses and they declined. This is a fact. Yet for his supporters, reality does not exist.

The willingness to believe misinformation is the most frightening thing in the US today. Instead of looking at the substance of an article, people dismiss it outright because they think the source is biased. News flash, people, all sources are biased. If you ignore the ones you don't agree with, your entire worldview will be shaped by your own bias.

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Speaking of willingness to believe misinformation...

https://nypost.com/2021/03/15/washingto ... ted-trump/

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 16th, '21, 09:56
by Stormchaser
easyrider16 wrote: Mar 16th, '21, 06:38 Up is down, wrong is right, the sky is green. Facts are what Trump says they are. We know for a fact Pfizer offered Trump's administration more vaccine doses and they declined. This is a fact. Yet for his supporters, reality does not exist.

The willingness to believe misinformation is the most frightening thing in the US today. Instead of looking at the substance of an article, people dismiss it outright because they think the source is biased. News flash, people, all sources are biased. If you ignore the ones you don't agree with, your entire worldview will be shaped by your own bias.

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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

When determining bias, there isn’t any true scientific formula that is 100% objective. There are objective measures that can be calculated, but ultimately there will be some degree of subjective judgment to determine these. On each page, we have put up a scale with a yellow dot that shows the degree of bias for each source. Each page also has a “detailed report” section that gives some details about the source and an explanation of their bias. When calculating bias we are not just looking at political bias, but also how factual the information is and if they provide links to credible, verifiable sources. Therefore, the yellow dot may indicate political bias or how factual a source is, or in many cases, both. It is important to note that our bias scale is based on the USA political scale, which may differ from other countries. For example, the Democratic Party is considered centrist or even right-center in many countries around the world, however in the USA they are considered Left-Center. Please keep this in mind if our ratings seem off in your native country.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 16th, '21, 10:01
by XtremeJibber2001
throbster wrote: Mar 16th, '21, 09:35
easyrider16 wrote: Mar 16th, '21, 06:38 Up is down, wrong is right, the sky is green. Facts are what Trump says they are. We know for a fact Pfizer offered Trump's administration more vaccine doses and they declined. This is a fact. Yet for his supporters, reality does not exist.

The willingness to believe misinformation is the most frightening thing in the US today. Instead of looking at the substance of an article, people dismiss it outright because they think the source is biased. News flash, people, all sources are biased. If you ignore the ones you don't agree with, your entire worldview will be shaped by your own bias.

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Speaking of willingness to believe misinformation...

https://nypost.com/2021/03/15/washingto ... ted-trump/
The link in the first paragraph goes to the Washington Post. Reading the article ... at the bottom is a note on the correction since the recording of the call is now public. In my opinion, it's a minor correction. However, because it was corrected I am not sure I follow how this is 'misinformation'.

The point originally made still stands ... POTUS should not be calling states and pressuring them to 'scrutinize' (wink wink) ballots.

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Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Mar 16th, '21, 10:36
by yiddle on da fiddle
The WaPo...I wouldnt let my pup make a dookie on that loathesome rag