Trump Presidency

[easyrider16]

I don't know about all that. You can see from the context of his conversation that he knew his Chinese counterpart for five years and they were friendly. That means they must have spoken often. We are not at war with China. It is not a breach of trust or even protocol for a US chairman to speak to a chinese general he has regular dealings with to assure him the US had no plans to attack. It's arguably part of his regular duties.

See here for perspective: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/15/10374547 ... bout-trump
https://www.jcs.mil/Media/News/News-Dis ... efs-of-de/

I imagine that lots of different government officials including generals have dealings with their foreign counterparts as part of their normal duties, and if they all needed to ask permission for it the president would be dealing with a thousand such requests a day.

[easyrider16]

Here's another report where, despite condemning the call, the acting secretary of defense under trump acknowledged that this call in particular was not some secret act but in fact followed normal protocol.

Despite the ultimatum, he told Politico that, "I imagine there was a perfunctory exchange between us and our staffs about coordinating phone calls and messages for the day."

"I don't recall the specifics, and it certainly wasn't in a detailed or more formal way," he added. "It was more perfunctory/routine."

https://gazette.com/news/trump-acting-d ... e68c0.html

[XtremeJibber2001]

I don't have serious concerns with the call to China. Although CJCS is only an adviser to POTUS, he has no responsibility for executing policy or military strategy. Seems folks are split whether the China call was in violation of his responsibilities or not.

My more serious concerns are around chain of command related to launching nuclear weapons. Still not a lot of detail or specifics around this though I haven't invested a lot of time digging on it.

[easyrider16]

Interesting, I thought the meeting relating to launching nuclear weapons was even less concerning than the call to China. Here's an explanation about what Milley claims he was doing from the NPR article I cited:

According to Stanley-Becker:

"Milley was concerned about checks in the system and ensuring that there wasn't some sort of improper, illegal or immoral action, as he put it to senior officers.

"So what he does on Jan. 8 is to summon senior officers to review these procedures, and to tell them, 'The president has the authority to decide on action, but there are other steps, and I also have to be made aware of that decision. So whatever happens, clue me in.'

"And it's this remarkable scene in the book, where he goes officer by officer, looks them in the eye and asks them to affirm that they understood his directions."

Of that meeting, the Pentagon said Milley was performing his duties of ensuring that the military's leaders were "aware of current issues."

"The meeting regarding nuclear weapons protocols was to remind uniformed leaders in the Pentagon of the long-established and robust procedures in light of media reporting on the subject," Butler said.

"Gen. Milley continues to act and advise within his authority in the lawful tradition of civilian control of the military and his oath to the Constitution."

I think part of the issue here is that the media has been sensationalizing these calls/meetings for clickbait purposes. Seems to me like these acts were pretty reasonable executions of Milley's duties as Chairman.

[Bigjohnski]

Washington Trump hating Post again?????????

Lets see what Traitor Milley has to say in front of congress

[Bigjohnski]

the leftist tried to throw General Flynn in jail and didn't give him a chance and is peanuts compared to Milley the traitors actions


Not following orders from the president and the Afghanistan fiasco

[easyrider16]

Here's an example of biased news coverage: Fox headline "Retired general calls for Milley's resignation" The General in question is Don Bolduc. No where in this story is it mentioned that Bolduc was a Republican candidate for Senate in 2020 and plans to run again in 2022. They also don't mention that Bolduc endorsed the Trumper election fraud conspiracy theory. Unlike Milley, who has not demonstrated any overt partisanship, Bolduc actually *is* a partisan. Which is fine, he's retired, he has a right to be. But I think it's pretty important to weigh that when considering his opinion on the current administration. The fact that Fox left it out is deceitful. Also kind of funny that he is accusing current serving generals of playing politics when he is literally engaged in politics.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp

[throbster]

Here's an example of biased news coverage: Fox headline "Retired general calls for Milley's resignation" The General in question is Don Bolduc. No where in this story is it mentioned that Bolduc was a Republican candidate for Senate in 2020 and plans to run again in 2022. They also don't mention that Bolduc endorsed the Trumper election fraud conspiracy theory. Unlike Milley, who has not demonstrated any overt partisanship, Bolduc actually *is* a partisan. Which is fine, he's retired, he has a right to be. But I think it's pretty important to weigh that when considering his opinion on the current administration. The fact that Fox left it out is deceitful. Also kind of funny that he is accusing current serving generals of playing politics when he is literally engaged in politics.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp

Boohoo.

Is this post satire? In sounds like satire.

[Bigjohnski]

Here's an example of biased news coverage: Fox headline "Retired general calls for Milley's resignation" The General in question is Don Bolduc. No where in this story is it mentioned that Bolduc was a Republican candidate for Senate in 2020 and plans to run again in 2022. They also don't mention that Bolduc endorsed the Trumper election fraud conspiracy theory. Unlike Milley, who has not demonstrated any overt partisanship, Bolduc actually *is* a partisan. Which is fine, he's retired, he has a right to be. But I think it's pretty important to weigh that when considering his opinion on the current administration. The fact that Fox left it out is deceitful. Also kind of funny that he is accusing current serving generals of playing politics when he is literally engaged in politics.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp

Quit yer Crying you're making me ill

[deadheadskier]

Here's an example of biased news coverage: Fox headline "Retired general calls for Milley's resignation" The General in question is Don Bolduc. No where in this story is it mentioned that Bolduc was a Republican candidate for Senate in 2020 and plans to run again in 2022. They also don't mention that Bolduc endorsed the Trumper election fraud conspiracy theory. Unlike Milley, who has not demonstrated any overt partisanship, Bolduc actually *is* a partisan. Which is fine, he's retired, he has a right to be. But I think it's pretty important to weigh that when considering his opinion on the current administration. The fact that Fox left it out is deceitful. Also kind of funny that he is accusing current serving generals of playing politics when he is literally engaged in politics.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp

I forgot that Qanon believing freak show Bolduc was running again. Lives a couple towns over from me. He's a believer in vaccine microchips and a whole host of other garbage just like Flynn.

[easyrider16]

He did have a traumatic brain injury while serving. Might explain some of his kooky views.

[Bigjohnski]

Milley and doofus Biden are the ones with the abnormal brain functions

[XtremeJibber2001]

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[Bigjohnski]

And????

[Coydog]

And????

Second rate reality TV personality and incumbent loser of the 2020 election still thinks he’ll be reinstated as president. Sad!