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Anyone familiar with YouTube?

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 11:30
by SkiDork
I got a copyright infringement notice today, from a video of Iceman I uploaded last night. Seems it was concerning the use of the song "Cool the Engines" by Boston. This is the notice:

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Dear Member:
This is to notify you that your video Iceman Killington comp 12/23/07 1st place M5 has been identified because you may not have the necessary permission to make it available on YouTube. The material identified in your video, the person claiming ownership of the material, and the policy they have designated for its use on YouTube are detailed below.

Material Copyright Holder Policy Countries
Audio from BOSTON-COOL THE ENGINES UMG Allow Everywhere
To learn about your options and to resolve this issue, please visit the Copyright Notice page in your account. Failure to take action may result in the removal of your video from YouTube.
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Is this normal? I've got a bunch of other vids that use songs on there, and have never gotten anything like this. Why this particular song? What does ALLOW EVERYWHERE mean? And how would I rectify it if I wanted to keep the song on there?

I can't view the copyright notice page from work, but I'll check it out when I get home.

Thanks for any insight.

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 12:39
by RedRider
What if the song had been playing over the loudspeakers
at the challenge, and ended up on the video becuase it
was present in the background ?

Then what?

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 12:42
by the Disemboweler
i am not very please with ur decision making at this time :evil: :twisted:

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Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 12:42
by jnucatola
RedRider wrote:What if the song had been playing over the loudspeakers
at the challenge, and ended up on the video becuase it
was present in the background ?

Then what?
Um yeah, but it wasn't.

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 12:45
by Skibumtress
I wonder if this person got the same warning. Check out "about this video"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxcfKp2KFE

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 12:50
by SkiDork
jnucatola wrote:
RedRider wrote:What if the song had been playing over the loudspeakers
at the challenge, and ended up on the video becuase it
was present in the background ?

Then what?
Um yeah, but it wasn't.
I agree - technically I guess I should have payed for it? But how would I go about doing that?

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 13:11
by Clutch
They're stupidly missing out on a revenue stream. Internet radio stations are supposed to be paying out $.0007 per song per listener (which is too high). At that rate you should be able to pay them a dollar and they should allow your video to be played 1,428 times.

do NOTHING...

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 13:12
by Pud in palm
until the recording Co and their atty sends a cease & desist...it'll never come...costs them too much...not worth their bother....

Re: Anyone familiar with YouTube?

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 13:27
by Clutch
SkiDork wrote:... And how would I rectify it if I wanted to keep the song on there?
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not possible

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070814/014310.shtml
Pud in palm wrote:until the recording Co and their atty sends a cease & desist...it'll never come...costs them too much...not worth their bother....
Either google is using software to identify infringement or Boston's label sent a DMCA takedown notice. If that is the case, Dork can send youtube a counter notification and the video will go back up, then if the label pursues it only dork can be sued and not youtube.

http://www.google.com/dmca.html

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 13:35
by SkiDork
so it sound to me like the strategy for posting on YouTube is:

Learn which artists are interested in pursuing royalties from YouTube vids, and just avoid them.

Agreed?

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 14:00
by Clutch
SkiDork wrote:so it sound to me like the strategy for posting on YouTube is:

Learn which artists are interested in pursuing royalties from YouTube vids, and just avoid them.

Agreed?
I think it probably has more to do with the music labels than the artists. Apparently, Warner was going to let all of their music be used on youtube, but I can only find info from when the initially announced it in 2006.

You could also go with lesser known artists

http://magnatune.com/
If you'd like to use Magnatune music in a video that will be posted on YouTube, Google Video, Revver, and/or other web video sites, simply buy the album and use the music.

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 14:08
by SkiDork
Clutch wrote:
SkiDork wrote:so it sound to me like the strategy for posting on YouTube is:

Learn which artists are interested in pursuing royalties from YouTube vids, and just avoid them.

Agreed?
I think it probably has more to do with the music labels than the artists. Apparently, Warner was going to let all of their music be used on youtube, but I can only find info from when the initially announced it in 2006.

You could also go with lesser known artists

http://magnatune.com/
If you'd like to use Magnatune music in a video that will be posted on YouTube, Google Video, Revver, and/or other web video sites, simply buy the album and use the music.
Thanks for the info Clutch.

BTW - Brad Delp would prolly turn over in his grave if he knew about this BS. I LOVE Boston. Talk about being penny pinchers (the label, apparently)

Posted: Feb 12th, '08, 16:56
by laseranimal
Interesting I got the same thing about a mini-animal vid

until they come and kick down my door they aren't getting a penny out of me cause I ACTUALLY bought the CD

whats next someone going to charge royalties/copyright infringement for playing music in the K-1 parking lot


wait.......

Powdr might think that'd be a good idea