The definitive answer BMMC
Posted: Mar 12th, '08, 14:54
Following is an e-mail I sent to Spinmaster (Tom Horrocks) it is printed in its entirety, I have Tom's OK to post this.
Hi Tom,
Hope things are going well.
I sent you a PM but figured you're a little busy with the set up for this weekend so I figured I'd send you a e-mail.
It has become clear after several of the members of Killingtonzone.Com contacted the VT DLC that the answer to a previous question may not have been entirely the truth.
KillingtonRep wrote:
We wanted to get this information out as soon as possible after confirming the details with the State of Vermont Division of Liquor Control, so thanks to Bubba for asking the question!
Q: 1. What is the BYOB policy and how will it be enforced, and by whom?
A: Due to State of Vermont Liquor Laws governing alcoholic beverages in pubic places, specifically related to prohibited acts, Bear Mountain Mogul Challenge spectators and competitors will not be allowed to bring alcoholic beverages to the event, including the parking areas of Killington Resort. Law enforcement officials from the Rutland County Sheriffs Department, Vermont State Police and Vermont State Liquor Control Board will be enforcing compliance and checking spectator’s bags and coolers at the entrances to the Bear Mountain venue.
Please see the following e-mail from Tom Curran, Investigator, VT Dept. Of Liquor Control, Law Enforcement Division
Hi Don,
I got your phone message too, but you did not leave me a phone number to contact you, if you want me to call you please send me back your contact number. In a nutshell after observing last years event, we as Liquor Control will be looking to see that no giving away of alcohol or selling alcohol without a liquor license occurrs.This law can be found in Title 7 VSA 61 (Prohibited acts / Restrictions). The town of Killington does not have an open container law that prohibits open containers. But Killington Corp. Can enforce a policy of not allowing alcohol on it's land, except for where they can sell due to them having a liquor license. A lot of the reasoning in Killington changing some of it's policy's is due to increased liability. The open alcoholic container's in the parking lot is their decision. Again we (DLC) are looking mainly to make sure VSA 61 is adhered to, make sure minors are not drinking, and to assist with public safety issues.
I hope this answers most of your questions, if you need further assistance with a question, just let me know.
Thanks,
Tom
Tom Curran
Investigator
VT Dept. Of Liquor Control
Law Enforcement Division
(802)-362-6024
Tom.curran@state.vt.us
The question:
Now that is has become clear that the VT DLC has not change its policies from years past .
Will Powdr Corp. Allow spectators, as they have for the past 28 years, to bring to the Bear Mogul Mountain Challenge venue, alcohol purchased by them and for their personal consumption?
_____________________________________________________________
From: Tom Horrocks
Date: 3/12/2008 11:53:22 AM
To: Don McNeill
Subject: RE: BMMC Alcohol Policy
Don,
We will not allow people to bring alcohol to the Bear Mountain venue for their own consumption.
Tom
____________________________________________________________
From: Don McNeill [mailto:shortski@vermontel.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:43 PM
To: Tom Horrocks
Subject: RE: BMMC Alcohol Policy
Tom,
Don't think it's the right decision but respect that it's Powdr's right to not allow it. OK to share with he rest of the board.
Don
____________________________________________________________
From: Tom Horrocks
Date: 3/12/2008 1:46:36 PM
To: Don McNeill
Subject: RE: BMMC Alcohol Policy
call me, 422-6237.
____________________________________________________________
I called Tom and we discussed several things and as to the question of alcohol at the BMMC,:
The decision was a KSRP decision not a Park City decision, they (KSRP) felt they had to issue the ban because of the DLC telling them it was their responsibility to insure compliance with the state law on giving/sharing alcohol. KSRP felt it did not have the adequate resources to police the crowd to insure compliance. In order to minimize the exposure of loosing their liquor license they felt they had no choice but to issue the ban notice.
Those are the facts, I report you decide.
Hi Tom,
Hope things are going well.
I sent you a PM but figured you're a little busy with the set up for this weekend so I figured I'd send you a e-mail.
It has become clear after several of the members of Killingtonzone.Com contacted the VT DLC that the answer to a previous question may not have been entirely the truth.
KillingtonRep wrote:
We wanted to get this information out as soon as possible after confirming the details with the State of Vermont Division of Liquor Control, so thanks to Bubba for asking the question!
Q: 1. What is the BYOB policy and how will it be enforced, and by whom?
A: Due to State of Vermont Liquor Laws governing alcoholic beverages in pubic places, specifically related to prohibited acts, Bear Mountain Mogul Challenge spectators and competitors will not be allowed to bring alcoholic beverages to the event, including the parking areas of Killington Resort. Law enforcement officials from the Rutland County Sheriffs Department, Vermont State Police and Vermont State Liquor Control Board will be enforcing compliance and checking spectator’s bags and coolers at the entrances to the Bear Mountain venue.
Please see the following e-mail from Tom Curran, Investigator, VT Dept. Of Liquor Control, Law Enforcement Division
Hi Don,
I got your phone message too, but you did not leave me a phone number to contact you, if you want me to call you please send me back your contact number. In a nutshell after observing last years event, we as Liquor Control will be looking to see that no giving away of alcohol or selling alcohol without a liquor license occurrs.This law can be found in Title 7 VSA 61 (Prohibited acts / Restrictions). The town of Killington does not have an open container law that prohibits open containers. But Killington Corp. Can enforce a policy of not allowing alcohol on it's land, except for where they can sell due to them having a liquor license. A lot of the reasoning in Killington changing some of it's policy's is due to increased liability. The open alcoholic container's in the parking lot is their decision. Again we (DLC) are looking mainly to make sure VSA 61 is adhered to, make sure minors are not drinking, and to assist with public safety issues.
I hope this answers most of your questions, if you need further assistance with a question, just let me know.
Thanks,
Tom
Tom Curran
Investigator
VT Dept. Of Liquor Control
Law Enforcement Division
(802)-362-6024
Tom.curran@state.vt.us
The question:
Now that is has become clear that the VT DLC has not change its policies from years past .
Will Powdr Corp. Allow spectators, as they have for the past 28 years, to bring to the Bear Mogul Mountain Challenge venue, alcohol purchased by them and for their personal consumption?
_____________________________________________________________
From: Tom Horrocks
Date: 3/12/2008 11:53:22 AM
To: Don McNeill
Subject: RE: BMMC Alcohol Policy
Don,
We will not allow people to bring alcohol to the Bear Mountain venue for their own consumption.
Tom
____________________________________________________________
From: Don McNeill [mailto:shortski@vermontel.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:43 PM
To: Tom Horrocks
Subject: RE: BMMC Alcohol Policy
Tom,
Don't think it's the right decision but respect that it's Powdr's right to not allow it. OK to share with he rest of the board.
Don
____________________________________________________________
From: Tom Horrocks
Date: 3/12/2008 1:46:36 PM
To: Don McNeill
Subject: RE: BMMC Alcohol Policy
call me, 422-6237.
____________________________________________________________
I called Tom and we discussed several things and as to the question of alcohol at the BMMC,:
The decision was a KSRP decision not a Park City decision, they (KSRP) felt they had to issue the ban because of the DLC telling them it was their responsibility to insure compliance with the state law on giving/sharing alcohol. KSRP felt it did not have the adequate resources to police the crowd to insure compliance. In order to minimize the exposure of loosing their liquor license they felt they had no choice but to issue the ban notice.
Those are the facts, I report you decide.
and they have the right to do it, end of story. Don't like it test the waters, just don't be first. I have a feeling that they will make an example of someone to make their point. JMHO
