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Bush is selling out the U.S.

Posted: Jan 30th, '05, 22:11
by RustyK
Boycott the Navy's decision on the new presidential helicoptor.

Your tax dollars are going overseas to fly an American President.


The Navy's decision today on the Marine One contract is not just disappointing - it is outrageously wrong," Lieberman said in a statement. "As I said from day one, our Commander-in-Chief should fly in the very best helicopter made in America - and the only one that meets that standard was Sikorsky's."

Re: Bush is selling out the U.S.

Posted: Jan 30th, '05, 23:34
by tyrolean_skier
RustyK wrote:Boycott the Navy's decision on the new presidential helicoptor.

Your tax dollars are going overseas to fly an American President.


The Navy's decision today on the Marine One contract is not just disappointing - it is outrageously wrong," Lieberman said in a statement. "As I said from day one, our Commander-in-Chief should fly in the very best helicopter made in America - and the only one that meets that standard was Sikorsky's."
I agree with you Rusty that the American President should only use American made products. It is a disgrace that he is doing this. What kind of message does this send to other countries? I would see it as a lack of confidence in a U.S. manufacturer of helicopters probably causing that company (Sikorsky) to lose some overseas contracts as well as some national contracts.

Posted: Jan 30th, '05, 23:44
by Pedro
I drive a honda......

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 07:05
by SkiDork
I'm confused. Isn't Lockheed Martin an American company?

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 08:58
by RustyK
SkiDork wrote:I'm confused. Isn't Lockheed Martin an American company?
The US-101 is an Americanized version of the EH-101 designed by Augusta Westland, a British-Italian aerospace unit of Finmeccanica SpA of Italy, which teamed up with Lockheed Martin and Bell Helicopters for the Marine One bid.

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 09:01
by SkiDork
So. They're still buying it from an American company, right?

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 09:12
by RustyK
SkiDork wrote:So. They're still buying it from an American company, right?
Most of the profits will go outside the U.S.

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/ ... -2044.html

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 09:27
by SkiDork
I don't have time to wade through that entire document but...

Don't people realize in this day and age that there is no longer any such thing as a corporation that is not global? Does anyone think that Boeing is not using overseas suppliers on some of their parts? I'd be willing to place a wager that even Sikorski gets some of their parts from suppliers that are distributing profits internationally.

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 09:40
by Dr. NO
Pedro wrote:I drive a honda......
Probably assembled in the USA or Canada.

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 11:43
by RustyK
SkiDork wrote:I don't have time to wade through that entire document but...

Don't people realize in this day and age that there is no longer any such thing as a corporation that is not global? Does anyone think that Boeing is not using overseas suppliers on some of their parts? I'd be willing to place a wager that even Sikorski gets some of their parts from suppliers that are distributing profits internationally.
You just like it because your Italian..

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 11:45
by SkiDork
RustyK wrote:
SkiDork wrote:I don't have time to wade through that entire document but...

Don't people realize in this day and age that there is no longer any such thing as a corporation that is not global? Does anyone think that Boeing is not using overseas suppliers on some of their parts? I'd be willing to place a wager that even Sikorski gets some of their parts from suppliers that are distributing profits internationally.
You just like it because your Italian..
not me. The wife is...

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 18:17
by schuss
SkiDork wrote:I don't have time to wade through that entire document but...

Don't people realize in this day and age that there is no longer any such thing as a corporation that is not global? Does anyone think that Boeing is not using overseas suppliers on some of their parts? I'd be willing to place a wager that even Sikorski gets some of their parts from suppliers that are distributing profits internationally.
its true, but in politics its the image that counts. If I were prez, even if it wasn't necessarily the best or cheapest, I would buy american. We're paying his salary, the least one can do is kick a bit back.

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 18:29
by DMC
How much does a president make a year??
Excluding kickbacks from major oil companies and stuff of course.... ;)

Posted: Jan 31st, '05, 22:27
by Bubba
Hey RustyK...how about full disclosure on why you feel the way you do?

Posted: Feb 1st, '05, 06:35
by SkiDork
schuss wrote:
SkiDork wrote:I don't have time to wade through that entire document but...

Don't people realize in this day and age that there is no longer any such thing as a corporation that is not global? Does anyone think that Boeing is not using overseas suppliers on some of their parts? I'd be willing to place a wager that even Sikorski gets some of their parts from suppliers that are distributing profits internationally.
its true, but in politics its the image that counts. If I were prez, even if it wasn't necessarily the best or cheapest, I would buy american. We're paying his salary, the least one can do is kick a bit back.
Thats exactly the point. Buying from Lockheed Martin IS buying american. Don't you know the history of Lockheed (originally Loghead or something like that)? The Skunkworks? Kelly Johnson? SR-71? I can go on and on. That is an american company.