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She knows of what she speaks.

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Same view I have. It's not all snowboarders maybe not even a majority but there is that element that optimizes what Lindsey is saying.

I make runs with borders on a regular basis...none of them do any of the crap that pisses people off. I like to see borders start to correct bad behavior of other borders. If not part of the soloution your part of the problem. Not all snowboarder are asshats...then were are the none asshat borders. Like it or not people are going to lump you all in together unless you start to police yourselves.

I echo Shortski's remarks. One root cause of the challenge is the incompatibility of the snowboarders stance to a skier. Boarders have a blind side on their back that skiers don't. Because boarders don't have ski poles to push off to start, they will do everything possible to keep going at all costs ( sometime carelessly) to not temporarily stop. Some boarders also didn't learn the skier code of conduct like stopping on the side of trails ( vs. not sitting down in the middle across the trail in a brigade) and the need to look uphill before entering a trail or resuming the descent on a slope.

Here's to a great new season of skiing and boarding together with more common sense, curteousness, and mutual respect.

Think snow!

Spyderman wrote:I echo Shortski's remarks. One root cause of the challenge is the incompatibility of the snowboarders stance to a skier. Boarders have a blind side on their back that skiers don't. Because boarders don't have ski poles to push off to start, they will do everything possible to keep going at all costs ( sometime carelessly) to not temporarily stop. Some boarders also didn't learn the skier code of conduct like stopping on the side of trails ( vs. not sitting down in the middle across the trail in a brigade) and the need to look uphill before entering a trail or resuming the descent on a slope.

Here's to a great new season of skiing and boarding together with more common sense, curteousness, and mutual respect.

Think snow!

Ive seen plenty of skiers that didnt learn the code of conduct either. If you stop in a stupid spot i'm gonna cover you in snow regardless of whats on your feet.

daytripper wrote:

Spyderman wrote:I echo Shortski's remarks. One root cause of the challenge is the incompatibility of the snowboarders stance to a skier. Boarders have a blind side on their back that skiers don't. Because boarders don't have ski poles to push off to start, they will do everything possible to keep going at all costs ( sometime carelessly) to not temporarily stop. Some boarders also didn't learn the skier code of conduct like stopping on the side of trails ( vs. not sitting down in the middle across the trail in a brigade) and the need to look uphill before entering a trail or resuming the descent on a slope.

Here's to a great new season of skiing and boarding together with more common sense, curteousness, and mutual respect.

Think snow!

Ive seen plenty of skiers that didnt learn the code of conduct either. If you stop in a stupid spot i'm gonna cover you in snow regardless of whats on your feet.

definitely not an equipment related issue...

By the time I police all the idiot snowboarders ( and skiers ), I'll have about 2 seconds of riding time! Don't want to get into another skier vs snowboarder rant. It's not the tool(s) attached to the bottom of the feet, but the tool attached to the top of the feet...

Agree it's the individual. But you are missing the point that the equipment I.e. The snowboard requires a different stance that creates a blind spot on their backside unlike a skier that has better left & right visibility.

Killington should have a "Conversion Day". Bring your snowboard to the rental shop where they lock up your board for the day and you can get rental skis at no coast. Maybe even an hour of therapy. Might work....

I collided with a skiier once in all my years of snowboarding, about 4 years ago. She was one of those annoying little middle school aged racer kids that think they own the entire mountain.

I was riding down towards the chairlifts, on a slight downhill traverse at the bottom of the racecourse. She came flying around the fencing and made an uphill turn towards the race house.

By the time I saw her, I had no time to react, she was going so fast. I would have hit the deck if I had time, but there was none. So we collided, hard.

The race people treated me like I was the devil himself. Instantly, it was my fault in their eyes as a boarder. My buddy almost came to blows with a dude from competition services about the correct way to put up fencing (hint: it was done incorrectly).

Mountain safety came to write up a report. By that time I was so pissed I was gonna give them a fake name and just shine on the whole situation. I'm glad I didn't. The more questions they asked me, the clearer it was that she was at fault. Making an uphill turn, skiing too fast, etc. Luckily some neutral people (all skiiers BTW) had witnessed the whole thing and confirmed my story.

TL, DR: There's people all over every mountain who don't know the proper way to conduct themselves safely, on one board or two.

And every time we see that comp services dude, we heckle the sh*t out of him. I especially love when he cuts through the ski patrol lift line. We really give him the business for that.

Sandman_71 wrote:I collided with a skiier once in all my years of snowboarding, about 4 years ago. She was one of those annoying little middle school aged racer kids that think they own the entire mountain.

I was riding down towards the chairlifts, on a slight downhill traverse at the bottom of the racecourse. She came flying around the fencing and made an uphill turn towards the race house.

By the time I saw her, I had no time to react, she was going so fast. I would have hit the deck if I had time, but there was none. So we collided, hard.

The race people treated me like I was the devil himself. Instantly, it was my fault in their eyes as a boarder. My buddy almost came to blows with a dude from competition services about the correct way to put up fencing (hint: it was done incorrectly).

Mountain safety came to write up a report. By that time I was so pissed I was gonna give them a fake name and just shine on the whole situation. I'm glad I didn't. The more questions they asked me, the clearer it was that she was at fault. Making an uphill turn, skiing too fast, etc. Luckily some neutral people (all skiiers BTW) had witnessed the whole thing and confirmed my story.

TL, DR: There's people all over every mountain who don't know the proper way to conduct themselves safely, on one board or two.

And every time we see that comp services dude, we heckle the sh*t out of him. I especially love when he cuts through the ski patrol lift line. We really give him the business for that.

Well told.

@freeski:

Thank you!

Spyderman wrote:Agree it's the individual. But you are missing the point that the equipment I.e. The snowboard requires a different stance that creates a blind spot on their backside unlike a skier that has better left & right visibility.

Everybody has a certain blind spot. None of us can see everything around us. I know because I've been on both skis and snowboards. Just gotta try your best to be in control.

daytripper wrote:

Spyderman wrote:I echo Shortski's remarks. One root cause of the challenge is the incompatibility of the snowboarders stance to a skier. Boarders have a blind side on their back that skiers don't. Because boarders don't have ski poles to push off to start, they will do everything possible to keep going at all costs ( sometime carelessly) to not temporarily stop. Some boarders also didn't learn the skier code of conduct like stopping on the side of trails ( vs. not sitting down in the middle across the trail in a brigade) and the need to look uphill before entering a trail or resuming the descent on a slope.

Here's to a great new season of skiing and boarding together with more common sense, curteousness, and mutual respect.

Think snow!

Ive seen plenty of skiers that didnt learn the code of conduct either. If you stop in a stupid spot i'm gonna cover you in snow regardless of whats on your feet.

If you cover me with snow, regardless of where I am standing, you better be ready to defend yourself.

People are stupid. People are stupid on skis, people are stupid on snowboards. There are jerks in either sport. Leaf peepers are stupid. Should they go to another state? Yes. Will it happen? No.

I have zero issues with skiers. My wife skis, my brother skis. My other brother snowboards, I snowboard.

In all seriousness, there is enough room for everyone. The main issue I see... is inexperienced people of either sport on the wrong trail for the ability level.

If it looks close I just assume the person in front of me boarder or skier is an idiot who could turn in any direction and because I do not know them and if it could wreak me if things go wrong I bail. It kills some great lines but I would rather miss the line than argue about it in court from my wheel chair.

I don't trust anyone.