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Reckless Skiers
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 10:45
by dssberg
It's surprising more people don't have the same experience that N2K had -- not that I wish it on anyone.
I was on Skyeburst on Saturday with my daughter (4 yrs. old) and some kid ran right into her.
On the next run -- same trail, I was skiing 15 feet behind my daughter and a snow boarder decided to use us as slalom course.
On Needle's, the same thing happened with an out of control skier.
If I didn't have my little girl with me, I would have chased them all down and ripped off their tickets.
K has gotten crazy. The trees are the only safe place.
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 10:47
by johnny the jibber
skiers are never out of control, or in the wrong for that matter. its all about the out of control snowboarders, come on now

Re: Reckless Skiers
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 10:50
by Cityskier
dssberg wrote:If I didn't have my little girl with me, I would have chased them all down and ripped off their tickets.
People have to stop with the tough guy sh*t. I'm not denying there are ass holes out there wreaking havoc, but your going to get your ass kicked if you roll up on the wrong guy because you thought "he got too close to you".
Re: Reckless Skiers
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 10:53
by Pedro
Cityskier wrote:dssberg wrote:If I didn't have my little girl with me, I would have chased them all down and ripped off their tickets.
People have to stop with the tough guy sh*t. I'm not denying there are ass holes out there wreaking havoc, but your going to get your ass kicked if you roll up on the wrong guy because you thought "he got too close to you".
Again, i think its time to call social services. There are 100s of other very nice places to take a 4 year old skiing that are way more safe. Did you ever hear of Pico........
Re: Reckless Skiers
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 10:54
by DMC Freeride
Cityskier wrote:dssberg wrote:If I didn't have my little girl with me, I would have chased them all down and ripped off their tickets.
People have to stop with the tough guy sh*t. I'm not denying there are ass holes out there wreaking havoc, but your going to get your ass kicked if you roll up on the wrong guy because you thought "he got too close to you".
Also (And i know I'm going to take a ton of sh*t for this) - but maybe you should consider taking your kid on a different trail until he/she gets a little faster and becomes part of the flow of traffic..
Re: Reckless Skiers
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 11:00
by BigKahuna13
DMC Freeride wrote:Cityskier wrote:dssberg wrote:If I didn't have my little girl with me, I would have chased them all down and ripped off their tickets.
People have to stop with the tough guy sh*t. I'm not denying there are ass holes out there wreaking havoc, but your going to get your ass kicked if you roll up on the wrong guy because you thought "he got too close to you".
Also (And i know I'm going to take a ton of sh*t for this) - but maybe you should consider taking your kid on a different trail until he/she gets a little faster and becomes part of the flow of traffic..
I'll give you a little sh*t for that. You're assuming that the kid was going too slow. Maybe the guy who overtook them was going excessively fast.
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 11:02
by johnny the jibber
ive never seen a speed limit on the hill, only the SLOW zones when intesecting trails merge or on rams head...
go as fast as you want, just dont hit anyone...
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 11:04
by dssberg
Thanks Kahuna -- I didn't want to get into the p*ssing contest.
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 11:05
by RipeBanana
My argument against skiing recklessly around kids is that doing anything to make the sport less accessible/fun/comfortable for future generations of ANY sport does a disservice to everyone. If you turn off an entire generation of rugrats to skiing because you recklessly plowed through them because "they shouldn't have been on that trail", then a valuable future market's gone. You think lift ticket prices are expensive now? Any mountain that would even stay open based entirely on ticket/concession sales to retirees would jack up lift ticket prices exorbitantly.
Re: Reckless Skiers
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 11:06
by DMC Freeride
BigKahuna13 wrote:DMC Freeride wrote:Cityskier wrote:dssberg wrote:If I didn't have my little girl with me, I would have chased them all down and ripped off their tickets.
People have to stop with the tough guy sh*t. I'm not denying there are ass holes out there wreaking havoc, but your going to get your ass kicked if you roll up on the wrong guy because you thought "he got too close to you".
Also (And i know I'm going to take a ton of sh*t for this) - but maybe you should consider taking your kid on a different trail until he/she gets a little faster and becomes part of the flow of traffic..
I'll give you a little sh*t for that. You're assuming that the kid was going too slow. Maybe the guy who overtook them was going excessively fast.
Maybe - but sounds like the same thing happened a couple of times...
A kid going slow on a crowded day - with a nervous parent following - on a high traffic "advanced skier" trail.. I don't see how some sort of "incident" could even be avoided..
Sorry...
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 11:07
by tyrolean_skier
I think if you are skiing or riding you should approach this in the same way as if you were driving a car on the road. If there is a slower car in front of you do you crash right into it? I would think that you would slow down before getting into an accident. The same goes for skiing/riding on a trail, if someone in front of you is slower then you, slow down until you can safely pass them.
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 11:07
by SkiDork
SnowPrincess and myself encountered a guy with his 6 year old son on Mouse Trap yesterday afternoon. I asked the guy how old the kid was because he looked kinda small (Snowprincess is 5)
The 6 year old kid was wedging turns on Mouse Trap - looked like it was his first time. The dad was coaching him on making each turn. It was fine because the trail was pretty empty.
Of couse, SP beat the snot out of the kid on Mouse Trap, doing carved parallel turns.
Then, when they got to lower Chute, I was amazed that this kid beat SP down. The reason for this? SP was doing more turns, carved parallel. THis kid just straightlined the entire lower chute (in a semi-wedge), straight through the Caper intersection.
It think his dad needs to work on his safety a bit...
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 11:08
by DMC Freeride
dssberg wrote:Thanks Kahuna -- I didn't want to get into the p*ssing contest.
Maybe if you gave a little more detail about speeds etc... It would be easier to make an assumption more in line with what you expect of us..
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 11:10
by DMC Freeride
tyrolean_skier wrote:I think if you are skiing or riding you should approach this in the same way as if you were driving a car on the road. If there is a slower car in front of you do you crash right into it? I would think that you would slow down before getting into an accident. The same goes for skiing/riding on a trail, if someone in front of you is slower then you, slow down until you can safely pass them.
Very true...
BUT - (and I'm not saying this is what happened) - if your on the Thruway and someone is doing 15mph.. I'm sure you would be pissed and wishing that person would drive faster...
Posted: Mar 6th, '06, 11:12
by picnic
Killingto on a Saturday with a 4 year old on Skye Burst. That wouldn't have my choice for a trail to ski with my kid when she was 4.