Hehe, I was in Miami beach in January and I pulled up behind a Ferrari with my souped up rental Nissan Altima. I revved the engine a few times behind him. He looked in the rearview, stared, then started laughing.
Chicken sh*t.....
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OT: Ferrari vs. Lamborghini
Moderators: SkiDork, spanky, Bubba
McClaren F1s have been put of production for a decade. My neighbor owns one, used to own two. Leno has one. I believe the top end is 242. A perfect one should sell in the $1M to $1.4M range. The only real challenge to it is the new Veyron. I personally find the Enzo, FXX (which is track only) and F50 homely and would rather have an F40 or Daytona.
I've had Ferraris and Lambos. The latest was a 360 Modena F1 spider for which I waited four years. It was... OK. The only great Lambo was a Muira. The rest were pretty much junk. By next year Gallardos will sell for $90K. Murcis for $150K. Ferraris are hands down better exotic cars than Lambos but also have racing provenance which makes them way more desirable. Both are maintenance intensive however. I typically put away $2K a year in anticipation of the F-cars five year maintenance and spend at least $1K a year on fluids. F-car paint is cheesy, body panel fit is so-so, the interior is often worn after a few thousand miles. The exhaust note, either the 8 or 12, with a tubi system is to die for though.
These cars are novel for a while and fun but not everyday drivers. Some hold value, some don't. I have been accustomed to making money on my exotics but after 9/11 don't hold your breath.
The car guy story kinda goes like this: have an affair with an Italian but marry a German. Hence, I currently daily drive the lapis blue Porsche turbo my son posted above. The car is maintenance free, reliable, and will just about touch 200 mph after mods. With the computer controlled AWD it will get to 60 in about 3.5. A Hayabusa can take me off the line but not at the top end and not on a track - say Lime Rock. Bikes can't corner like cars - contact patch and all. The turbo makes 2000 hp of stopping power with stock brakes. With a few more mods a 996 turbo can make 800 plus hp - Ferraris and Lambos can't. In any event, I am looking at a Carrera GT as the prices are falling. And the sound of the turbo when I put straight pipes on just off the turbos is better than the F-cars due to the turbo spooling.
Porsche - there is no substitute. At least when it comes to 911s. My favorite was an 86 930. Second gear was all that was needed on a track. Just phenomenal. Wish I had it back.
I've had Ferraris and Lambos. The latest was a 360 Modena F1 spider for which I waited four years. It was... OK. The only great Lambo was a Muira. The rest were pretty much junk. By next year Gallardos will sell for $90K. Murcis for $150K. Ferraris are hands down better exotic cars than Lambos but also have racing provenance which makes them way more desirable. Both are maintenance intensive however. I typically put away $2K a year in anticipation of the F-cars five year maintenance and spend at least $1K a year on fluids. F-car paint is cheesy, body panel fit is so-so, the interior is often worn after a few thousand miles. The exhaust note, either the 8 or 12, with a tubi system is to die for though.
These cars are novel for a while and fun but not everyday drivers. Some hold value, some don't. I have been accustomed to making money on my exotics but after 9/11 don't hold your breath.
The car guy story kinda goes like this: have an affair with an Italian but marry a German. Hence, I currently daily drive the lapis blue Porsche turbo my son posted above. The car is maintenance free, reliable, and will just about touch 200 mph after mods. With the computer controlled AWD it will get to 60 in about 3.5. A Hayabusa can take me off the line but not at the top end and not on a track - say Lime Rock. Bikes can't corner like cars - contact patch and all. The turbo makes 2000 hp of stopping power with stock brakes. With a few more mods a 996 turbo can make 800 plus hp - Ferraris and Lambos can't. In any event, I am looking at a Carrera GT as the prices are falling. And the sound of the turbo when I put straight pipes on just off the turbos is better than the F-cars due to the turbo spooling.
Porsche - there is no substitute. At least when it comes to 911s. My favorite was an 86 930. Second gear was all that was needed on a track. Just phenomenal. Wish I had it back.
wow - you sound like the kind of guy who doesn't have to ask "how much?" Nice job.SnoAddict wrote:McClaren F1s have been put of production for a decade. My neighbor owns one, used to own two. Leno has one. I believe the top end is 242. A perfect one should sell in the $1M to $1.4M range. The only real challenge to it is the new Veyron. I personally find the Enzo, FXX (which is track only) and F50 homely and would rather have an F40 or Daytona.
I've had Ferraris and Lambos. The latest was a 360 Modena F1 spider for which I waited four years. It was... OK. The only great Lambo was a Muira. The rest were pretty much junk. By next year Gallardos will sell for $90K. Murcis for $150K. Ferraris are hands down better exotic cars than Lambos but also have racing provenance which makes them way more desirable. Both are maintenance intensive however. I typically put away $2K a year in anticipation of the F-cars five year maintenance and spend at least $1K a year on fluids. F-car paint is cheesy, body panel fit is so-so, the interior is often worn after a few thousand miles. The exhaust note, either the 8 or 12, with a tubi system is to die for though.
These cars are novel for a while and fun but not everyday drivers. Some hold value, some don't. I have been accustomed to making money on my exotics but after 9/11 don't hold your breath.
The car guy story kinda goes like this: have an affair with an Italian but marry a German. Hence, I currently daily drive the lapis blue Porsche turbo my son posted above. The car is maintenance free, reliable, and will just about touch 200 mph after mods. With the computer controlled AWD it will get to 60 in about 3.5. A Hayabusa can take me off the line but not at the top end and not on a track - say Lime Rock. Bikes can't corner like cars - contact patch and all. The turbo makes 2000 hp of stopping power with stock brakes. With a few more mods a 996 turbo can make 800 plus hp - Ferraris and Lambos can't. In any event, I am looking at a Carrera GT as the prices are falling. And the sound of the turbo when I put straight pipes on just off the turbos is better than the F-cars due to the turbo spooling.
Porsche - there is no substitute. At least when it comes to 911s. My favorite was an 86 930. Second gear was all that was needed on a track. Just phenomenal. Wish I had it back.
As if there was any confusion after this post: viewtopic.php?p=136786&highlight=#136786SkiDork wrote:wow - you sound like the kind of guy who doesn't have to ask "how much?" Nice job.
really...Steve wrote:As if there was any confusion after this post: viewtopic.php?p=136786&highlight=#136786SkiDork wrote:wow - you sound like the kind of guy who doesn't have to ask "how much?" Nice job.
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RJSVermont
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Dork,
I've had a good life in many ways. I've been blessed - not sure why though. Tend to think my priorities have been pretty much in line through the years.
Grew up dirt poor in the coal fields of southwestern Pennsylvania, the son of eastern European immigrants (within miles of where Flight 93 went in on 9/11 actually). I had one pair of pants in junior high. I was an avid reader as a kid and became one of the very few in that region who realized how big the world was and that you could pretty much be anything you wanted. I wanted NOT to live like that and figured education was the only way. No lotteries or casinos back then. I'm white so the NBA was out too.
Loaded trucks at UPS to pay my way through undergrad / grad school.
Traveled around the world for 15 years in the commercial nuclear power industry working 100 hours a weeks for months on end. Became senior management at two Fortune 500 companies (one in Pittsburgh and another in Chicago). Ten years ago started my own metallurgical / nuclear engineering company in Connecticut. Now one of ten biggest in my niche in the US based upon revenue. I'll take luck when I can get it and I've apparently had some.
Have a great wife and three great snowboarding sons. Was terminally ill a short while ago and without them I'd be creamated already. Was treated experimentally in Munich (illegal here) and am now 100%. Was in a walker, bed-ridden and a dope addict for years.
Tried to post some of my car photos but was unable.
Everyday is the best day of your life as there may be no tomorrow.
I've had a good life in many ways. I've been blessed - not sure why though. Tend to think my priorities have been pretty much in line through the years.
Grew up dirt poor in the coal fields of southwestern Pennsylvania, the son of eastern European immigrants (within miles of where Flight 93 went in on 9/11 actually). I had one pair of pants in junior high. I was an avid reader as a kid and became one of the very few in that region who realized how big the world was and that you could pretty much be anything you wanted. I wanted NOT to live like that and figured education was the only way. No lotteries or casinos back then. I'm white so the NBA was out too.
Loaded trucks at UPS to pay my way through undergrad / grad school.
Traveled around the world for 15 years in the commercial nuclear power industry working 100 hours a weeks for months on end. Became senior management at two Fortune 500 companies (one in Pittsburgh and another in Chicago). Ten years ago started my own metallurgical / nuclear engineering company in Connecticut. Now one of ten biggest in my niche in the US based upon revenue. I'll take luck when I can get it and I've apparently had some.
Have a great wife and three great snowboarding sons. Was terminally ill a short while ago and without them I'd be creamated already. Was treated experimentally in Munich (illegal here) and am now 100%. Was in a walker, bed-ridden and a dope addict for years.
Tried to post some of my car photos but was unable.
Everyday is the best day of your life as there may be no tomorrow.
coolness.SnoAddict wrote:Dork,
I've had a good life in many ways. I've been blessed - not sure why though. Tend to think my priorities have been pretty much in line through the years.
Grew up dirt poor in the coal fields of southwestern Pennsylvania, the son of eastern European immigrants (within miles of where Flight 93 went in on 9/11 actually). I had one pair of pants in junior high. I was an avid reader as a kid and became one of the very few in that region who realized how big the world was and that you could pretty much be anything you wanted. I wanted NOT to live like that and figured education was the only way. No lotteries or casinos back then. I'm white so the NBA was out too.
Loaded trucks at UPS to pay my way through undergrad / grad school.
Traveled around the world for 15 years in the commercial nuclear power industry working 100 hours a weeks for months on end. Became senior management at two Fortune 500 companies (one in Pittsburgh and another in Chicago). Ten years ago started my own metallurgical / nuclear engineering company in Connecticut. Now one of ten biggest in my niche in the US based upon revenue. I'll take luck when I can get it and I've apparently had some.
Have a great wife and three great snowboarding sons. Was terminally ill a short while ago and without them I'd be creamated already. Was treated experimentally in Munich (illegal here) and am now 100%. Was in a walker, bed-ridden and a dope addict for years.
Tried to post some of my car photos but was unable.
Everyday is the best day of your life as there may be no tomorrow.
Send some of those photos to me, and I an put them up for you. I'll PM you my email addy...
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tyrolean_skier
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You deserve to enjoy the fruits of your labor. You are correct that you must live each day as it may be your last. One never knows when the end will come. I am thinking of 9/11 right now and of the friends I lost on that day.SnoAddict wrote:Dork,
I've had a good life in many ways. I've been blessed - not sure why though. Tend to think my priorities have been pretty much in line through the years.
Grew up dirt poor in the coal fields of southwestern Pennsylvania, the son of eastern European immigrants (within miles of where Flight 93 went in on 9/11 actually). I had one pair of pants in junior high. I was an avid reader as a kid and became one of the very few in that region who realized how big the world was and that you could pretty much be anything you wanted. I wanted NOT to live like that and figured education was the only way. No lotteries or casinos back then. I'm white so the NBA was out too.
Loaded trucks at UPS to pay my way through undergrad / grad school.
Traveled around the world for 15 years in the commercial nuclear power industry working 100 hours a weeks for months on end. Became senior management at two Fortune 500 companies (one in Pittsburgh and another in Chicago). Ten years ago started my own metallurgical / nuclear engineering company in Connecticut. Now one of ten biggest in my niche in the US based upon revenue. I'll take luck when I can get it and I've apparently had some.
Have a great wife and three great snowboarding sons. Was terminally ill a short while ago and without them I'd be creamated already. Was treated experimentally in Munich (illegal here) and am now 100%. Was in a walker, bed-ridden and a dope addict for years.
Tried to post some of my car photos but was unable.
Everyday is the best day of your life as there may be no tomorrow.
Ty,
My family and I had actually prepared for me to die about two years ago. We spent two weeks in the Bavarian Alps at Garmisch to say goodbye before checking in to a Munich hospital. It was at that time I realized what a great life I had had and didn't feel any anger about dying "young" and "missing out". I have managed to keep that same perspective, as has my family, and if today is the day, then so be it.
What is sadder and more illustrative of that than 9/11? Just a normal fall day in America. We've attended the memorial service each year at the WTC. After last year we decided that we can't do it anymore. Just too emotional. We visited the Flight 93 memorial site last summer in the middle of nowhere PA and the feeling was just one of emptiness.
Anyway, have a great weekend. We are going to the US Snowboard Open at Flatton.
My family and I had actually prepared for me to die about two years ago. We spent two weeks in the Bavarian Alps at Garmisch to say goodbye before checking in to a Munich hospital. It was at that time I realized what a great life I had had and didn't feel any anger about dying "young" and "missing out". I have managed to keep that same perspective, as has my family, and if today is the day, then so be it.
What is sadder and more illustrative of that than 9/11? Just a normal fall day in America. We've attended the memorial service each year at the WTC. After last year we decided that we can't do it anymore. Just too emotional. We visited the Flight 93 memorial site last summer in the middle of nowhere PA and the feeling was just one of emptiness.
Anyway, have a great weekend. We are going to the US Snowboard Open at Flatton.