One Strike and you're out (Split from Ask K Forum)

»¦« · Post by **»¦«** » Jul 30th, '07, 21:00

Highway Star wrote:WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS???

FROM LAST YEAR:

http://www.killingtonzone.com/forums/vi ... sed+trails

spinmaster wrote:Sorry laseranimal, you lose!
This is really a simple question to answer. If you ski or ride on a closed trail you not only endanger yourself, but our staff as well if they have to go onto a closed trail to rescue you. Ski Patrol decides when to open and close trails. If you get caught skiing on a closed trail by a patroller, ambassador, office staff - including myself - we will punch your pass or ticket. If you already have a punch in your pass or ticket, then you day is over, and for that matter, maybe your week or season.
Yes, we will be looking for poachers on Ovation, Devil's Fiddle and other areas that are closed. So consider this a friendly reminder of the closed trail policy!
At least things were somewhat sane under ASC.....

Dare I say it, we need ASC back!

DrJeff · Post by **DrJeff** » Jul 31st, '07, 06:53

Highway Star wrote:WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS???

FROM LAST YEAR:

http://www.killingtonzone.com/forums/vi ... sed+trails

spinmaster wrote:Sorry laseranimal, you lose!
This is really a simple question to answer. If you ski or ride on a closed trail you not only endanger yourself, but our staff as well if they have to go onto a closed trail to rescue you. Ski Patrol decides when to open and close trails. If you get caught skiing on a closed trail by a patroller, ambassador, office staff - including myself - we will punch your pass or ticket. If you already have a punch in your pass or ticket, then you day is over, and for that matter, maybe your week or season.
Yes, we will be looking for poachers on Ovation, Devil's Fiddle and other areas that are closed. So consider this a friendly reminder of the closed trail policy!
At least things were somewhat sane under ASC.....

Now do you really think that a K employee would post anything to the contrary on a highly traveled, albeit unofficial K forum like this, especially given the high percentage of folks that participate here who frequent "reserved" trails?????

Please HS, take a deep breath, step back and look at the situation before you go and run "fire!" Also, don't forget to take your Ritalin so you can focus your thoughts from the beginning of one of your posts to the end.

Dr. NO · Post by **Dr. NO** » Jul 31st, '07, 09:54

You all forget that POWDR is from Utah, where Out of Bounds can be deadly. If you take that into consideration, that may be cause for them to clamp down on closed trail and O of B skiing. But, like Utah, if Out of Bounds is National or State Forest, post a sign and leave them to it.

XtremeJibber2001 · Post by **XtremeJibber2001** » Jul 31st, '07, 10:10

Dr. NO wrote:You all forget that POWDR is from Utah, where Out of Bounds can be deadly. If you take that into consideration, that may be cause for them to clamp down on closed trail and O of B skiing. But, like Utah, if Out of Bounds is National or State Forest, post a sign and leave them to it.

What's the policy at Park City?

Bling Skier · Post by **Bling Skier** » Jul 31st, '07, 11:05

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DrJeff · Post by **DrJeff** » Jul 31st, '07, 11:14

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
Dr. NO wrote:You all forget that POWDR is from Utah, where Out of Bounds can be deadly. If you take that into consideration, that may be cause for them to clamp down on closed trail and O of B skiing. But, like Utah, if Out of Bounds is National or State Forest, post a sign and leave them to it.
What's the policy at Park City?

Back country Out of Bounds access is through avalanche control gates, where the warning basically says, "you better have an avi beacon, be skiing/riding with a group, and you potentially could be killed by an avalanche but since your out of bounds, but since your off our property we're not legally responsible if it happens"

In bounds, its basically go where you want, and if they haven't done the avi control work, that lift isn't spinning.

Post by **SkiDork** » Jul 31st, '07, 11:50

Bling Skier wrote:What's the policy at Park City?

On the spot decapitation

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Jul 31st, '07, 12:04

SkiDork wrote:
Bling Skier wrote:What's the policy at Park City?
On the spot decapitation

In Colorado, you can be hit with a $300 fine for ducking ropes.
Colorado Ski Safety Act of 1979, C.R.S. 33-44-109(12).

Every place I've skied in Utah, they take trail closures seriously. It's avalanche country and they'll yank your ticket for ducking ropes. I doubt Park City is any different from anywhere else in Utah.

XtremeJibber2001 · Post by **XtremeJibber2001** » Jul 31st, '07, 13:17

Bling Skier wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
Dr. NO wrote:You all forget that POWDR is from Utah, where Out of Bounds can be deadly. If you take that into consideration, that may be cause for them to clamp down on closed trail and O of B skiing. But, like Utah, if Out of Bounds is National or State Forest, post a sign and leave them to it.
What's the policy at Park City?
jib You planing on going to Utah?
if so i doubt you will be skiing PC.

Excellent logic bling

I hope to plan a trip to UT or WA this year.

laseranimal · Post by **laseranimal** » Jul 31st, '07, 13:56

yeah but even if you've got an open boundary policy you need control gates, you don't want someone going OB and accidentally skiing underneath a group above them.....

Thats one of my biggest fears with the new interest in sidecountry/backcountry skiing. Sometime in the near future you're going to have an incident where a group above may accidentally trigger a slide and take out a group below.

I know its the EC, but for christsakes you're sitting at the bottom of a F*@#ing slidepath

gpetrics · Post by **gpetrics** » Jul 31st, '07, 15:22

laseranimal wrote:yeah but even if you've got an open boundary policy you need control gates, you don't want someone going OB and accidentally skiing underneath a group above them.....

Thats one of my biggest fears with the new interest in sidecountry/backcountry skiing. Sometime in the near future you're going to have an incident where a group above may accidentally trigger a slide and take out a group below.

I know its the EC, but for christsakes you're sitting at the bottom of a F*@#ing slidepath

whiteface?

whiteout · Post by **whiteout** » Jul 31st, '07, 15:25

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
Bling Skier wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
Dr. NO wrote:You all forget that POWDR is from Utah, where Out of Bounds can be deadly. If you take that into consideration, that may be cause for them to clamp down on closed trail and O of B skiing. But, like Utah, if Out of Bounds is National or State Forest, post a sign and leave them to it.
What's the policy at Park City?
jib You planing on going to Utah?
if so i doubt you will be skiing PC.
Excellent logic bling

I hope to plan a trip to UT or WA this year.

planning and actually GOING are 2 different things :)

XtremeJibber2001 · Post by **XtremeJibber2001** » Jul 31st, '07, 15:32

whiteout wrote:planning and actually GOING are 2 different things :)

I know, I know ... it all really depends on quite a few factors, but I'm hoping for the best! Finding people to go with on the dates I can go is tough and then there is that damn money thing!

laseranimal · Post by **laseranimal** » Jul 31st, '07, 15:40

gpetrics wrote: whiteface?

yup

they're so damn anal about when they're going to open them I don't doubt that conditions were safe and in the photo it looks like moguls are forming down towards the bottom, but the problem is that people ski things like that where the risk levels monitored and get a false sense of security then go out and lie down in an avie path in the real BC and get spanked