Memo from CN

RustyK · Post by **RustyK** » Dec 10th, '07, 10:36

Some ambasadors saw me in the trees but did not say anything.
I guess if they did not see you duck a rope it's ok?

Stormchaser · Post by **Stormchaser** » Dec 10th, '07, 10:52

RustyK wrote:Some ambasadors saw me in the trees but did not say anything.
I guess if they did not see you duck a rope it's ok?

Patrol saw us in Low Rider from Northstar. Followed along Northstar till we exited at the bottom. We ducked no rope, but were skiing a closed trail.

laseranimal · Post by **laseranimal** » Dec 10th, '07, 11:12

^ that sucks

SPORE · Post by **SPORE** » Dec 10th, '07, 11:34

Bubba wrote:
SPORE wrote:Spoke with a partoller on the lift on Saturday..Said Nyberg wants them to be much more strict about this policy.

After talking to some employees, Nyberg seems to be quite the piece of sh*t to work for. Parking attendant said Nyberg yelled at them to park the cars closer together.

Nyberg=Douchebag
Did he really "yell" at them or was it something a little less dramatic?

Sorry I didn't quiz the parking attendant on his use of the word yell.

What are you doing out from under Nyberg/Horrocks desk so early?

wanderer7453 · Post by **wanderer7453** » Dec 10th, '07, 11:40

BadDog wrote:
laseranimal wrote: I'll be interested to see the retention rate K has for its current season passholders.
Me too.

Saw the critiscism some office boy shot Bubba over his survey -- would love to see the results of their official customer research. Last weekend, we were hit up by two ambassadors withinn about 10 minutes of each other to do a little market survey thing they were conducting on their little elctronic gadgets.

From what one of them let slip, I bet the figures on whether the cutomer is receiving "good value" are much lower than you would want them to be for customer retention. (And that "customer is always wrong" attititude can't be helping much.)

Of course, if your plan is to desimate all the local business -- and deflate all the local real estate values -- in order to eventually have a monopoly on all mountain related business -- well, then their strategy makes some sense.

Wanderer, I thought I give up all liabilility claims against the mountain when I buy a ticket.

I do not believe signing a liability waiver relieves the owner of any gross negligence.

Powderputz · Post by **Powderputz** » Dec 10th, '07, 12:02

When skiing on the trails, are you under ANY legal obligation to produce a ski pass if asked?

I keep my ticket out ONLY when approaching a lift. Otherwise, my ticket is strictly kept in my pocket. I don't as a rule "poach"; I do not want to lose my ticket due to a fall, or the wind, or whatever. I don't wear the sleeve patch thing.

Are patrollers deputized marshalls, troopers or sheriffs? I don't think so!

Tell the patroller, "Oh, I'm sorry. I HIKED in here and I was tired and lost. Sorry!"

Stormchaser · Post by **Stormchaser** » Dec 10th, '07, 12:06

Powderputz wrote:When skiing on the trails, are you under ANY legal obligation to produce a ski pass if asked?

I keep my ticket out ONLY when approaching a lift. Otherwise, my ticket is strictly kept in my pocket. I don't as a rule "poach"; I do not want to lose my ticket due to a fall, or the wind, or whatever. I don't wear the sleeve patch thing.

Are patrollers deputized marshalls, troopers or sheriffs? I don't think so!

Tell the patroller, "Oh, I'm sorry. I HIKED in here and I was tired and lost. Sorry!"

No just decline to give up your pass. They may escort you off the mountain and make sure you dont jump on another lift, but that'd be it. Or just sit there, see how long they wait for you...

Follow you to your car and get your info...? I rode the bus. And I can ride the bus back to my condo, pull a couple quick tubes, change jackets and head back out...

icedtea · Post by **icedtea** » Dec 10th, '07, 12:23

Stormchaser wrote:
Powderputz wrote:When skiing on the trails, are you under ANY legal obligation to produce a ski pass if asked?

I keep my ticket out ONLY when approaching a lift. Otherwise, my ticket is strictly kept in my pocket. I don't as a rule "poach"; I do not want to lose my ticket due to a fall, or the wind, or whatever. I don't wear the sleeve patch thing.

Are patrollers deputized marshalls, troopers or sheriffs? I don't think so!

Tell the patroller, "Oh, I'm sorry. I HIKED in here and I was tired and lost. Sorry!"
No just decline to give up your pass. They may escort you off the mountain and make sure you dont jump on another lift, but that'd be it. Or just sit there, see how long they wait for you...

Follow you to your car and get your info...? I rode the bus. And I can ride the bus back to my condo, pull a couple quick tubes, change jackets and head back out...

Stormchaser · Post by **Stormchaser** » Dec 10th, '07, 12:27

Takes one to know one....

Post by **Bubba** » Dec 10th, '07, 12:29

SPORE wrote:
Bubba wrote:
SPORE wrote:Spoke with a partoller on the lift on Saturday..Said Nyberg wants them to be much more strict about this policy.

After talking to some employees, Nyberg seems to be quite the piece of sh*t to work for. Parking attendant said Nyberg yelled at them to park the cars closer together.

Nyberg=Douchebag
Did he really "yell" at them or was it something a little less dramatic?
Sorry I didn't quiz the parking attendant on his use of the word yell.

What are you doing out from under Nyberg/Horrocks desk so early?

Just asking. Here's another question: Do you wake up being a sh*t head or do you have to have your coffee first?

skip · Post by **skip** » Dec 10th, '07, 12:53

Stormchaser wrote:
No just decline to give up your pass. They may escort you off the mountain and make sure you dont jump on another lift, but that'd be it. Or just sit there, see how long they wait for you...

Sheesh... way to make sled dogs your friends.

I don't have a horse in this race, but this policy isn't far removed from what it was back in the '80s when I hauled sleds there. Maybe a little stiffer - IIRC you lost a pass for the season on third offense - but not much else changed.

Oh, and by the way - just in case there's any doubt, a season pass is owned by the mountain, not by you. They can legally demand its return any time. They can call the local constabulary to meet you at the bottom and it's likely the cop will force you to cough it up. They can do any of a number of things.

Now, whether they WILL do those things - or even rigorously enforce the policy - remains to be seen. Meantime, KSP gets caught in the crossfire. Don't make their lives too difficult, campers. They might not like the 'new' policy any more than you do.

Stormchaser · Post by **Stormchaser** » Dec 10th, '07, 12:57

skip wrote:
Stormchaser wrote:
No just decline to give up your pass. They may escort you off the mountain and make sure you dont jump on another lift, but that'd be it. Or just sit there, see how long they wait for you...
Sheesh... way to make sled dogs your friends.

I don't have a horse in this race, but this policy isn't far removed from what it was back in the '80s when I hauled sleds there. Maybe a little stiffer - IIRC you lost a pass for the season on third offense - but not much else changed.

Oh, and by the way - just in case there's any doubt, a season pass is owned by the mountain, not by you. They can legally demand its return any time. They can call the local constabulary to meet you at the bottom and it's likely the cop will force you to cough it up. They can do any of a number of things.

Now, whether they WILL do those things - or even rigorously enforce the policy - remains to be seen. Meantime, KSP gets caught in the crossfire. Don't make their lives too difficult, campers. They might not like the 'new' policy any more than you do.

I didn't say tell them to go fvck themselves...just politely decline to hand over your pass.

And just because it says the mtn owns it on the back of the pass, doesn't mean its true...

EDIT: The ones that are my friends don't ask for my pass...

Dwight · Post by **Dwight** » Dec 10th, '07, 15:57

BadDog wrote: Saw the critiscism some office boy shot Bubba over his survey

Office Boy? That's funny, that's exactly what it says on my business card. Am I not allowed to criticize or make observations?

laseranimal · Post by **laseranimal** » Dec 10th, '07, 16:07

Dwight wrote:
BadDog wrote: Saw the critiscism some office boy shot Bubba over his survey
Office Boy? That's funny, that's exactly what it says on my business card. Am I not allowed to criticize or make observations?

NO

now get back to fixing the web page peon

BadDog · Post by **BadDog** » Dec 10th, '07, 16:11

Dwight wrote:
BadDog wrote: Saw the critiscism some office boy shot Bubba over his survey
Office Boy? That's funny, that's exactly what it says on my business card. Am I not allowed to criticize or make observations?

No -- not saying that at all -- and sorry if I came off as flippant in regards to your profession -- not my intent to be personally insulting there -- so blame it on weak coffee and a surly disposition.

What I was saying is that you should have some on-mountain market research of your own by now -- since it was being done the weekend before -- and perhaps you should share, especially if the survey was designed to put things in a better light than a poll that you characterized as being negatively biased.