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I'm getting fed up

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How is this stuff getting out :!: :!: :!: :!:

Check out Mr Cummings advertising and marketing people.:

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Check out the portfolio by client then check out the contacts. See any names in common with the post below? At the end of the article.

Sooooo, who's steering the boat?????????

Rumor out here is we're duplicating marketing efforts and someone may be going :shock: :shock: :shock:

P.S. Notice who's not on the list of clients...coincidence...I think not.


Ski passes at center of dispute
Killington skiers claim they should receive 'lifetime' privileges
Patrick Parkinson, Of the Record staff
Article Launched: 01/11/2008 04:04:22 PM MST

The embattled American Skiing Company is named in a lawsuit filed by a group of Vermont and Massachusetts skiers who claim their season passes to ski at Killington resort must be honored forever for free.
The plaintiffs seek class-action status for their case.

ASC once owned Killington, which it sold to Park City-based POWDR Corp. as American Skiing Company dissolved in 2007. POWDR Corp. teamed with SP Land Company LLC to purchase Killington and neighboring Pico Mountain for $85 million.

"Lifetime ski passes" the plaintiffs own at Killington entitle "them to free use of all ski lifts operated at Killington," a 7-page complaint filed against Killington, LTD., American Skiing Company, SP Lands Company, LLC, SP II Resort, LLC, Killington/Pico Ski Resort Partners, LLC and S-K-I, LTD.

To raise funds to create Killington on land owned by the state of Vermont, the Sherburne Corporation began selling shares of stock in the resort in 1958, according to the lawsuit.

"As an incentive to purchase these shares, Sherburne offered a lifetime ski pass to any purchaser of a certain number of shares," the complaint states. "Under the terms of these lifetime passes, the holder was entitled to free use of all ski lifts operated at Killington for so long as a lease with the State of Vermont was in effect."

When Park City-based American Skiing Co. took control of Killington in 1996 the company was required to honor the lifetime passes, the lawsuit filed Nov. 1 by Martin Post, Jill Post, Judith A. Dark and William Langlais states.

The case was filed in Rutland Superior Court in Vermont and then transferred to U.S. District Court in Burlington.

"By 2003 American Skiing Company was in significant financial straits," the lawsuit against the company states. "It conveyed certain assets to SP Land Company, LLC, an entity created by Killington, Ltd. and others."

Early last year ASC agreed to sell Killington.

"The 2007 purchase agreement specifically recognizes the existence of the lifetime passes and requires the purchasers to honor these passes," the lawsuit states.

But last year Killington Ltd. President Allen Wilson said the passes would no longer be honored.

Skiers were asked to boycott the new owner of Killington.

"We intend to nip this in the bud and show them very clearly that their new vision for our resort and their overall business ethics are not appreciated here in the Northeast," the group concernedkillingtonskiers@yahoo.com stated.

Members of the group encouraged Killington skiers not to buy their season passes early.

"Delay your pass purchase until within 48 hours (of) the final deadline for a discounted pass, which will most likely be in early October," an e-mail from the group stated. "Pre-season pass sales represent 15 percent of Killington's yearly revenue, or roughly $10 milllion, which is received prior to the start of resort operations."

Last year, a spokesman for POWDR Corp. said Killington officials would continue to honor about 35 lifetime passes at the resort.

But calling season passes purchased at Killington in the 1960s "lifetime passes" isn't accurate, POWDR spokesman Mark Fischer said.

Those passes were only to be honored by the Sherburne Corporation, Fischer added.


Killington, the largest ski resort in New England, is situated on about 1,200 acres near Rutland, Vt.



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Alpine Meadows is still listed which was sold... Guessing its outdated.
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So are you they guy running the boycott? How'd that work out? :roll:
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Loose Lips Sink Ships wrote: Rumor out here is we're duplicating marketing efforts and someone may be going
I think anyone in upper management who predates POWDR should be very nervous. It is not unusual for a new owner of a company to retain key employees for a while in order to find out where the bodies are buried, but eventually replace them with someone who's loyalty is more closely aligned with the parent company. Nothing malicious, that's just the way it is. I would expect to see the axe fall after the season ends.
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rogman wrote:
Loose Lips Sink Ships wrote: Rumor out here is we're duplicating marketing efforts and someone may be going
I think anyone in upper management who predates POWDR should be very nervous. It is not unusual for a new owner of a company to retain key employees for a while in order to find out where the bodies are buried, but eventually replace them with someone who's loyalty is more closely aligned with the parent company. Nothing malicious, that's just the way it is. I would expect to see the axe fall after the season ends.
How can there possibly be a "duplication" of marketing efforts? K-Mart doesn't do any "marketing" anymore, unless you count a handful of random posts in a third-party chat room.

The better question is why K-Marketing still exists, period...
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JerseyGuy wrote:
How can there possibly be a "duplication" of marketing efforts? K-Mart doesn't do any "marketing" anymore, unless you count a handful of random posts in a third-party chat room.

The better question is why K-Marketing still exists, period...
Aren't you the Okemo guy are you interested in a job in marketing, contact

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Loose Lips Sink Ships wrote:
JerseyGuy wrote:
How can there possibly be a "duplication" of marketing efforts? K-Mart doesn't do any "marketing" anymore, unless you count a handful of random posts in a third-party chat room.

The better question is why K-Marketing still exists, period...
Aren't you the Okemo guy are you interested in a job in marketing, contact

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Marketing? Yuck. No thanks. But if I was, would I leave Okemo for Powdr?

(As I don't smoke crack, the answer is no.)
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I think the best marketing Killington had were its hardcore supporters. With Powdr alienating a majority of these individuals they have done more harm then any failed marketing department could do.
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icedtea wrote:I think the best marketing Killington had were its hardcore supporters. With Powdr alienating a majority of these individuals they have done more harm then any failed marketing department could do.
AMEN, well put!

Whatever, like I care that this guy is getting fed up. Nobody is forcing him to read these posts. This f*ck head is probably a gaper from Texas.

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icedtea wrote:I think the best marketing Killington had were its hardcore supporters. With Powdr alienating a majority of these individuals they have done more harm then any failed marketing department could do.
+1

The several thousand share house people were always Preston Smith's captive marketing department.

You notice that the Access Road ski shops all sell cheap season tunes to get traffic into their shops? If you have a season pass and a season tune, you tend to bring your guests into that shop to buy things and rent or demo things. They don't make a dime on the season tune business but it generates a huge amount of traffic that would otherwise go elsewhere. Season passes are pretty much the same thing. You bring friends and family up who buy day tickets. You talk up how great your weekend was at your office on Monday.

If you come from a locals-only area in Bend, Oregon or if you own a destination resort in Utah, you don't have any experience with how Killington was marketed or why. If you're also not competent enough to know who your competent staff are and then empower them and take your advice from those people, you end up with a train wreck.

In my opinion, a lot of people will get fired over this and it could very well be a case of punishing the innocent while the guilty leadership stays in place. At this point, I'm not quite sure how the resort can mend fences with the town without first selling the operation to somebody else. If I were sitting in Texas with title to a big pile of real estate, that's what I'd be trying to accomplish.
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